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  • #46
    Originally posted by Ninot
    Asher is right on the UI argument. I learnt so in school. I remember a classic exchange between student and professor.

    Student: "How come we never learn how to program anything for Macs or whatever?"

    Prof: "Because Macs are just prissy little toys that cant really do anything but draw. We're trying to teach you how to actually get something accomplished"
    Your argument doesn't support your premise.

    UI design has nothing to do with the ability to program under a particular OS.
    (\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
    (='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
    (")_(") "Starting the fire from within."

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Asher
      Because it's:

      1) Cheaper
      2) Permits more freedom
      3) Cheaper
      4) More functional (more software)
      5) Cheaper
      6) Runs games (DirectX)
      7) Is not tied to underpowered, overpriced hardware
      8) The Finder is the worst program, ever
      9) Single menu bar: Not only does it not make logical sense (disconnecting it from the widget it controls), it's a usability nightmare

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Asher

        I don't know what your problem is then -- my family's computer, and my BF's computer, never has that **** on it. And my BF and family aren't technical geeky computer people.

        If you're a ****** and click the stupid popups/lottery-winning links you see, you'll get **** on your computer you don't want.

        The only reason that doesn't affect you on a Mac is because the Mac marketshare is so pathetic there are no programs offered in popups for you to install. If everyone used a Mac it'd be bloated down similarly by stupid users.
        That's called circular logic . . . . . . . .

        And considering that it is UNIX/Linux servers that are used in a large number of mission-critical services , why doesn't anybody target them ? Taking down a large number of services critical to the internet is going to get you many more "leet points" that if you target individual windows users - yet there are practically no viruses for Linux/UNIX . Why is that ?

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        • #49
          Just a question - why is it that I can have a put a linux box on the internet and wait for it to patch itself ( using one little command ) , without worrying about whether or not it will get infected in about 12.5 minutes ( after a fresh install ) ( 12.5 minutes is the mean time to infection of an unpatched Windows box . As downloading the updates takes more time than that , Windows boxes usually get infected just by trying to update a fresh install . ) ?

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          • #50
            I really don't want to get in this argument. Because Mac people always say they can use a console for games (which I find to be an invalid arguement since civ3 isn't on consoles).

            but out of curiousity, what is the cheapest mac you can get?

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Dis
              but out of curiousity, what is the cheapest mac you can get?
              A Mac Mini
              (\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
              (='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
              (")_(") "Starting the fire from within."

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Urban Ranger


                A Mac Mini
                and what is the price in U.S. dollars?

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                • #53
                  Use XP because it goes with everything. Its easier and by far more mainstream.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Dis
                    and what is the price in U.S. dollars?
                    Use the Google, Dis!

                    Here's one link
                    (\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
                    (='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
                    (")_(") "Starting the fire from within."

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Agathon
                      People still use Windows because they love spyware, viruses, poorly designed UIs and ****ty graphics.

                      Now do I have to post Asher's "I love OS X" thread again?
                      Or maybe because Apple Hardware is too much buck for the bang and Linux isn't as comfortable as Windows is out of the box.

                      Spyware and viruses are no problem for me and Windows is anything but a poorly designed UI. Take a look at Gnome to see a poorly designed UI and the graphics are okay in windows. In fact I find Mac OS X's "Design everywhere" much uglier and especially the brushed metal look which is absolutely disgusting. I am using the classic windows theme and I am fine with it. An OS doesn't need to look beautiful, it needs to look consistent and make you want to work with it. By that Mac OS 9 had the best graphics: simple, effective and nothing that distracts.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Atahualpa
                        Spyware and viruses are no problem for me and Windows is anything but a poorly designed UI.
                        A new worm is on the loose over the Net as I write...

                        Originally posted by Atahualpa
                        An OS doesn't need to look beautiful, it needs to look consistent and make you want to work with it.
                        It is true that a GUI makes working with simple tasks simpler, and hard tasks more difficult.

                        For example, how do you make a listing of all the files and directories on your computer under Windows? How many clicks will that take?
                        (\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
                        (='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
                        (")_(") "Starting the fire from within."

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                        • #57
                          I don't fear any worms or viruses, they'll simply not catch me.

                          [Q=Urban Range]It is true that a GUI makes working with simple tasks simpler, and hard tasks more difficult.

                          For example, how do you make a listing of all the files and directories on your computer under Windows? How many clicks will that take?[/Q]

                          The question is not how to make that, the question is why would I want to do that?

                          But okay, I know what you mean and ofc you are right. Though you have to admit, you need the simple tasks 99% of the time and the hard tasks 1%.
                          There are even people (a majority I suppose) who never need to do hard tasks and for them failing to make simple tasks simpler is failing to provide them a better environment.

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                          • #58
                            Beacuse I like natural light in my house
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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Atahualpa
                              I don't fear any worms or viruses, they'll simply not catch me.
                              Then you are one of the few. Constantly on guard can wear your nerves thin

                              Originally posted by Atahualpa
                              But okay, I know what you mean and ofc you are right. Though you have to admit, you need the simple tasks 99% of the time and the hard tasks 1%.
                              Not me. I do network administration among other things

                              Originally posted by Atahualpa
                              There are even people (a majority I suppose) who never need to do hard tasks and for them failing to make simple tasks simpler is failing to provide them a better environment.
                              There are also window managers available for Linux. Whether they are up to the task is a matter of personal preferences.
                              (\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
                              (='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
                              (")_(") "Starting the fire from within."

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Agathon
                                Ming's ibook must have been broken or had something done to it. My wife can't screw up an ibook, which is the hardest test for a computer imaginable.
                                Most of the people in the office had similar problems, so it wasn't just my computer
                                Keep on Civin'
                                RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O

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