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    (CNN) -- Saudi Arabia's King Fahd -- whose reign was marked by unprecedented prosperity, but whose close ties with the United States stirred the passions of Islamic militants -- has died, Saudi officials announced Monday. He was 82.

    The Saudi monarch had been in and out of the hospital in recent months, most recently suffering from pneumonia-like symptoms. Fahd yielded day-to-day control of the kingdom a decade ago after suffering a stroke, with Crown Prince Abdullah serving as the de facto ruler since then.

    Fahd assumed the throne on June 13, 1982, becoming the fifth king of Saudi Arabia. He was the son of King Abdul Aziz Bin Abdul Rahman Al-Saud, the founder of the modern Saudi Arabia.

    "I will be father to the young, brother to the elderly," he once said. "I am but one of you; whatever troubles you, troubles me; whatever pleases you, pleases me."

    The Saudi monarch was held in high esteem across the Arab and Muslim worlds because of his role as the custodian of the two holy mosques -- the major shrines of Islam in Mecca and Medina.

    As king, he supervised projects to facilitate the hajj for the more than 2 million pilgrims from around the world who visit each year. Under his rule, Mecca was expanded to 3.5 million square feet to accommodate 1 million worshippers; Medina has grown to nearly 1.8 million square feet to accommodate 500,000 people, according to his official biography.

    He was also an ardent supporter of the mujahedeen in the 1980s in their fight against the former Soviet Union in Afghanistan -- where Saudi-born terror leader Osama bin Laden first gained a following.

    But it was Fahd's decision to allow U.S. forces to be based out of Saudi Arabia during the 1991 Gulf War against Iraq that outraged Islamic fundamentalists, including bin Laden who criticized his homeland for allowing "infidels" to attack another Arab country from its soil.

    The United States also used a highly secret base in the kingdom to conduct special operations from during the early days of the Iraq invasion in 2003.

    Al Qaeda terrorists have launched several attacks inside the kingdom in recent years. And 15 of the 19 hijackers in the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks on the United States were from Saudi Arabia -- a fact that did not sit well with many in Washington who have been skeptical of the kingdom.

    But the Bush administration has remained staunchly behind the kingdom since 9/11, calling Riyadh a key ally in the war on terror.

    "The Saudis have been very aggressive in hunting down the terrorist cells that are in Saudi Arabia and we've had a good deal of success also on the terrorist financing front," U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said during a foreign policy speech in May 2005.

    Born in 1923, Fahd attended one of the kingdom's first educational institutions during his youth, and in 1953 he became Saudi's first minister of education.

    For the next two decades, he served increasingly important roles, including interior minister, deputy prime minister and crown prince. In 1977, he met with U.S. President Jimmy Carter and U.S. Secretary of State Cyrus Vance about the importance of American involvement in trying to forge a lasting settlement to the Arab-Israeli conflict.

    "I believe the U.S. can play an important part in solving the problem if we take into account not only American influence worldwide, but also the strong relationship between America and Israel," he said at the time.

    He continued to try to work for Mideast peace over the years, including on his first visit to the United States as king in 1985 when met with President Ronald Reagan about the need for a renewed American role in the Mideast peace process.

    During Fahd's tenure, the kingdom saw an economic, agricultural and educational transformation, building on its oil wealth to become an international and regional power.

    "With the blessing and grace of Almighty God and with the assistance of the faithful Saudi people, we shall continue the welfare march of construction and development and maintain the gains which are reflected by comprehensive achievements in various fields," he recently said.
    Last edited by EPW; August 1, 2005, 03:52.
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    Not unexpected. In recent years pretty much the Crown Price has been running the show anyway.
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    • #3
      Re: Saudi King dies

      Originally posted by EPW
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      As the article says, the guy who is the new king has de facto ruled the country for 10 years. So whatever there is to be scared about has been there for the last 10 years.
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      • #4
        Glowing praise for an authoritarian dictator...is this what you found disturbing? It ranks right up there for me at least.
        "You say that it is your custom to burn widows. Very well. We also have a custom: when men burn a woman alive, we tie a rope around their necks and we hang them. Build your funeral pyre; beside it, my carpenters will build a gallows. You may follow your custom. And then we will follow ours."--General Sir Charles James Napier

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        • #5
          Another tyrant dies. Good job.
          Only feebs vote.

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          • #6
            Fahd fades finally, farewell.

            Wave welcome another Wah'habist.
            Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.

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            • #7
              Another tyrant dies. Good job.

              That's my line. Now let's do something about the new one
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              • #8
                RIP
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                • #9
                  Nothing to be sad about here.
                  Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Datajack Franit



                    That's my line. Now let's do something about the new one

                    Not clear if Abdullah will be the same. OTOH, not clear if Abdullahs more conservative half-brothers will allow any changes. Real question is how Abdullah consolidates power. Some folks think Prince Nayef (interior minister, and rival of Abdullah) has secret links to AQ - or at least to hardline preachers.
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                    • #11
                      It will be more interesting when its no longer sons of the Original Saudi king that are taking the throne.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by GePap
                        It will be more interesting when its no longer sons of the Original Saudi king that are taking the throne.
                        very true - when the nephews (or grandchildren, depending on your POV) inherit.

                        Of course the current struggle could determine WHICH grandchildren inherit - one of abdullahs sons, or one of the many children of the sudeiri seven.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by lord of the mark Not clear if Abdullah will be the same.
                          Of course he'll be the same as he has been for the past 10 years.

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                          • #14
                            Judging others based on your own cultural and personal beliefs

                            Fahd did many great things for his nation, and was a friend to the U.S. and to Freedom everywhere. Saudi Arabia does not wish to become a democracy; only an egotistical, selfish idiot believes that everyone must follow their personal opinion on what is 'right'. Or a religious person ... Che, which are you

                            Tyranny is when a leader terrorizes his people and loots and pillages his nation for his own personal gain. Tyrants are not beloved by their people, but reviled and feared. Fahd was neither - he was a beloved leader, and most Saudis would choose the Monarchy of King Fahd over a democracy any day of the week.

                            If you believe in "democracy" in theory - i.e., that the will of the people should be followed - then consider that the will of the Saudis is monarchy.

                            I only hope that Abdullah is as good a friend to the U.S., and as beloved a leader, as Fahd...
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                            • #15
                              people like snoopy are the reason bad things happen. They're actively uncaring.
                              urgh.NSFW

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