If only Nehru had . . . . . .

[aneeshm]

. . . . . delayed going to the UN until India had recaptured Kashmir , there would have been no terrorist training camps in Kashmir/Pakistan , no support to Al-Kaeda from the ISI ( Pakistan's intelligence agency ) , no 9/11 , no Madrid bombings , no London bombings , no Afghanistan war , no Iraq war , and no fear of Pakistani WMD/nukes falling into terrorist hands . Two days . A dealy of two f***in' days . That's what could have prevented this huge mess .

What says 'poly to this ?

[Bereta_Eder]

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[:) Smiley]

Well what were his reaons for going to the UN at the point that he did?

[aneeshm]

He wanted to appear a "statesman" who "took his place on the world stage" . No national interest went into that decision . And because he did not act on India's national interest , he created this mess .

[Urban Ranger]

I don't think Saddam or bin Laden has any connections to this.

[Zkribbler]

You're assuming the Muslim population would not have rebelled.

A better scenario is...if only Jeda had not pulled Pakistan out of India but would have settled for strong guarantees of minority rights. No Pakistani-Indian wars, no nukes in sourthern Asia, and the world's largest democracy in perpetual peace working for the good of all of its peoples.

[Guynemer]

"If only Nehru had..."

...gotten money for all the jackets he inspired.

[Sandman]

If only Reagan had let the Soviets win in Afghanistan...

[Dr Strangelove]

If India had recaptured all of Kashmir the Pakistanis would have continued sending rebels into Kashmir anyway. Nothing short of giving them Kashmir would have satisfied them at that time. The major Islamic Jihad movements operating in Europe and the Middle East have very little to do with Pakistan's lust for Kashmir, but instead their origins are largely related to the Arab - Israeli conflict. If you ask these guys what motivates them to fight the west they'll talk first about Iraq and Afghanistan, then about Israel, then about western domination of world trade and culture. If you're lucky some of them might be aware of the conflict between Pakistan and India, but then if that were their concern they wouldn't be bothering with New York, Washington, Madrid and London.

[Dr Strangelove]

"If only Nehru had....."

....not used US monetary foreign aid to deplete the US gold reserves so that he could make a quick buck on the international gold markets the US Congress might not have slashed the US foreign aid budget down to next to nothing and tens of millions of people around the world might be better off.

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

Wouldn't it have been a better idea to give all of Kashmir to Pakistan?

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp
Wouldn't it have been a better idea to give all of Kashmir to Pakistan?

[Whoha]

Re: If only Nehru had . . . . . .

Originally posted by aneeshm
. . . . . delayed going to the UN until India had recaptured Kashmir , there would have been no terrorist training camps in Kashmir/Pakistan , no support to Al-Kaeda from the ISI ( Pakistan's intelligence agency ) , no 9/11 , no Madrid bombings , no London bombings , no Afghanistan war , no Iraq war , and no fear of Pakistani WMD/nukes falling into terrorist hands . Two days . A dealy of two f***in' days . That's what could have prevented this huge mess .

What says 'poly to this ?

Kashmir didn't cause any of that.

[aneeshm]

Not directly - but the Pakistani policy of state-supported terrorism would not have had a chance . This in turn would have caused the ISI to not support Al-Queda ( or at least not as much ) , and would most likely have prevented 9/11 - they would not have had the resources ( or training ) necessary .

Most terrorists in the Western world are trained in either Pakistani or Afghanistani training camps . The initial training in terrorist methods and that initial expertise came from the ISI - Pakistan's intelligence agency .

[Frankychan]

What would be the problem of just having Kashmir become it's own political entity?

(and yes, I support Kashmir going to one of the two countries)

Wouldn't it just solve the ongoing border dispute between Pakistan and India?