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    Jewish militants put death curse on Sharon--report


    JERUSALEM, July 26 (Reuters) - Jewish ultranationalists put a death curse on Ariel Sharon, saying only God could breach the heavy security around the Israeli prime minister, the Ynet Web site reported on Tuesday.

    "It's preferable that God, rather than a mortal, kills him because his bodyguards are just too good," Ynet quoted one of the participants at a "Pulsa Denora," an ancient Jewish ceremony which it said was held at a cemetery at the weekend.

    Jewish ultranationalis cast a similar religious curse against Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin before ultranationalist assassin Yigal Amir gunned him down at a peace rally in 1995.

    Israel's Shin Bet security agency has tightened security round Sharon since he initiated a plan to withdraw next month from the Gaza Strip and northern West Bank, parts of occupied lands that the Palestinians want for a future state.

    The Pulsa Denora ceremony involves the reading by candlelight of medieval mystical texts. According to Ynet, 20 men attended the ceremony at a cemetery in the northern town of Rosh Pina, all but one dressed in black.
    And it seems to work



    Sharon not bothered by death curse
    From correspondents in Paris
    July 28, 2005

    ISRAELI Prime Minister Ariel Sharon today dismissed any suggestion he feared for his life after Jewish extremists opposed to his looming Gaza pullout cast an ancient death curse on him.

    "I am never frightened about this sort of thing, not in the past and not now," Mr Sharon told reporters during an official visit to Paris.

    "This type of threat has not changed how I spend my time," he said.

    In a northern Israeli cemetery presided over by rabbi Yossef Dayan, around 20 radicals held a "pulsa dinura" ceremony at dawn last Friday imploring God to strike down the prime minister, local media has widely reported.

    Far-right Israeli activists held a "pulsa dinura" to pray for the death of former prime minister Yitzhak Rabin in 1995, a few days before he was killed by a Jewish extremist for trying to make peace with the Palestinians.

    Rabbi Dayan read out the curse at that ritual, too.

    The group urged "the angels of destruction" to kill Mr Sharon, participants said, stressing that a human assassination attempt on the prime minister was "futile" given his massive security protection.

    Israel's chief Ashkenazi rabbi, Yona Metzger, has denounced the rite in the strongest possible terms for contravening the values of Judaism.
    Anyone who knows if that it is as effective as described ? Maybe British Police could use it then.
    With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

    Steven Weinberg

  • #2
    Gypsies do that too.

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    • #3
      About Sharon in Paris: it seems his visit in Paris indicates a normalization of the French-Israeli relationship. Sharon even lauded the French government for his fight against antisemitism. Some short time ago, he sang a very different tune.
      "I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
      "I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
      "I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- Dis

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      • #4
        Some short time ago, Shirac sang a very different tune vis a vis Syria.
        urgh.NSFW

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        • #5
          Well, it does affect it. Also, I think there is a different strategy now. Arafat is dead, and old-style politics can't work in Palestine anymore. And finally, I think our diplomats are now understanding that Sharon is pragmatic (his plan for removing settlers in Gaza is largely supported - we happen to dislike them settlers )

          BTW, it is now possible to register at Eventis and you can finally post you-know-what
          "I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
          "I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
          "I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- Dis

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          • #6
            more properly speaking, this is a medieval weapon, not ancient, along with most of the rest of Kabbalah. The use of kabbalistic mysticism to attempt to actually DO stuff, curses and all that is called "practical Kabbalah" and is akin to magic. Other than a bit in Gershom Scholem, I really dont know anything about it.
            "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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            • #7
              Both terms was mentioned in those articles, so I picked one on random - I neither know anything about it

              It just makes me what religious people can do and how they think - just as those settlers that think that the evacuation plan never will be implemented. Not because of some politcal actions or like, but because they KNOW that god will not allow it and will intervene when the evacuation starts.
              With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

              Steven Weinberg

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              • #8
                I jinx you!

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by BlackCat
                  Both terms was mentioned in those articles, so I picked one on random - I neither know anything about it

                  It just makes me what religious people can do and how they think - just as those settlers that think that the evacuation plan never will be implemented. Not because of some politcal actions or like, but because they KNOW that god will not allow it and will intervene when the evacuation starts.
                  most religious Jews, even ones with an interest in mysticism and Kabbalah, dont go around cursing people.
                  "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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                  • #10
                    A pox on Bush and his family!
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                    • #11
                      It's preferable that God, rather than a mortal, kills him because his bodyguards are just too good,"
                      Ahhh, what a nice thing to say about his bodyguards.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by lord of the mark


                        most religious Jews, even ones with an interest in mysticism and Kabbalah, dont go around cursing people.
                        Sorry, I should have put a "some" in that sentence.
                        With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

                        Steven Weinberg

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                        • #13
                          This is embarrasing.

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                          • #14
                            This is old news, I read about this a year ago, if not before that.
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                            • #15
                              I read about this in the Ancient Sex Toy thread.
                              Monkey!!!

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