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  • Strange political bedfellows in South America

    In one corner you have...

    Venezuela
    Cuba
    Argentina
    Uruguay

    In the other you have...

    US
    Brazil
    Colombia

    It's amazing to think that Hugo Chavez could help bring leftist Brazil and the US together.

    First broadcast for Latin channel
    By Iain Bruce
    BBC News, Caracas

    Telesur is broadcasting to more than 20 countries
    A new pan-Latin American TV channel, Telesur, has begun its first broadcast from the Venezuelan capital, Caracas.

    It is backed by the governments of Venezuela, Argentina, Cuba and Uruguay who say they want it to promote Latin American integration.

    Last week the House of Representatives voted to enable the US administration to begin broadcasting its own TV signals to Venezuela.

    The US plan is intended to counter what it called anti-US propaganda.

    A few minutes later than scheduled, just after midday Venezuelan time, Telesur's presenter, Patricia Villegas, welcomed viewers to "this new television station of the south".

    In its first broadcast, the channel's president, Venezuelan communications minister, Andres Izarra, told viewers in as many as 23 Latin American countries that Telesur was not directed against the people of the US.

    'Time for change'

    The station was, he said, "erupting onto the international scene" to counter cultural imperialism, which he said had gone unchallenged in the region for 50 years.

    Several international advisors to the new channel, including the Pakistani-British broadcaster and activist Tariq Ali, spoke against the attempts on Capitol Hill to get the US government to counter Telesur with broadcasts of its own.

    But in a live telephone link, President Hugo Chavez expressed confidence that Telesur had "scored the first goal". The time had come for a big change, he said, and Telesur was part of that change.

    The channel's first news programme began with a critical report on the failures of the mission in Haiti led by Brazil, followed by another on the plight of refugees in Colombia - a sign that it is not only in Washington that Telesur may be ready to ruffle feathers.
    I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

  • #2
    Lula isn't all that leftist.
    Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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    • #3
      He has proven to be practical-minded and has been a real success story of the left. Once and if he consolidates his gains from this practical-mindedness, he'll have more room to demonstrate his leftishness.
      I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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      • #4
        This propaganda channel crap is going to backfire.

        It might have worked in the 80s but it's a tired old CIA game that EVERYONE and their mother knows about now.

        If they really want to do it, they need to take more of a PR type of strategy where the BS isn't so blatant.

        Why are we interfering in South America anyway?

        OIL
        DRUGS

        Punishing other countries because of our own greed and vices.
        We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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        • #5
          Doesn't Fox News already exist? Why do they need another one?
          Captain of Team Apolyton - ISDG 2012

          When I was younger I thought curfews were silly, but now as the daughter of a young woman, I appreciate them. - Rah

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          • #6
            Originally posted by OzzyKP
            Doesn't Fox News already exist? Why do they need another one?
            Fox News... in SPANISH!

            Their slogan won't be "Fair and Balanced" but "Stay in your own countries, brown people"
            “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
            - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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            • #7
              Captain of Team Apolyton - ISDG 2012

              When I was younger I thought curfews were silly, but now as the daughter of a young woman, I appreciate them. - Rah

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              • #8
                Hey, maybe they can invite you to speak about why 10 year olds should have the right to pick up AK-47s and fight for liberation against fascist governments!
                “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                • #9
                  Ah the question is whether I can remember enough Spanish to make it work.

                  Los Jovenes necesitos mas derechos. Ahora!
                  Captain of Team Apolyton - ISDG 2012

                  When I was younger I thought curfews were silly, but now as the daughter of a young woman, I appreciate them. - Rah

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                  • #10
                    It's ok. They'll provide a translator... who'll really say "I am an American, therefore I'm a big idiot. Blah, blah, blah... America sucks"

                    “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                    - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by DanS
                      He has proven to be practical-minded and has been a real success story of the left. Once and if he consolidates his gains from this practical-mindedness, he'll have more room to demonstrate his leftishness.

                      Because to you, anyone left of the Pope is a dangerous, militant, foaming-in-the-mouth, senseless radical right?
                      A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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                      • #12
                        Cuba's in South America?
                        I'm consitently stupid- Japher
                        I think that opinion in the United States is decidedly different from the rest of the world because we have a free press -- by free, I mean a virgorously presented right wing point of view on the air and available to all.- Ned

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by MrFun
                          Because to you, anyone left of the Pope is a dangerous, militant, foaming-in-the-mouth, senseless radical right?
                          Most.
                          I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by DanS
                            He has proven to be practical-minded and has been a real success story of the left. Once and if he consolidates his gains from this practical-mindedness, he'll have more room to demonstrate his leftishness.
                            The current corruption scandals are increasing the size of that 'if'.
                            Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else?

                            It's no good (from an evolutionary point of view) to have the physique of Tarzan if you have the sex drive of a philosopher. -- Michael Ruse
                            The Nedaverse I can accept, but not the Berzaverse. There can only be so many alternate realities. -- Elok

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                            • #15
                              That's why I included the "if."
                              I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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