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  • #16
    This
    looks nice. It has a 380W Powersupply from Truepower and only costs
    $80 from newegg after the rebate. Are two 120mm fans enough to keep the computer cool though?

    specs: http://www.antec-inc.com/specs/Sonata_spe.html
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    • #17
      I have an Athlon 64 3200+ with an Antec Sonata -- it's absolutely "good enough" for cooling.
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      • #18
        Antec Sonata can have 4 cooling fans though. Do you use all four or is two enough?
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        • #19
          I have the ones it came with only.
          "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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          • #20
            I do like the looks of it. It is going onto the list


            Antec Sonata II for about $120.
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            • #21
              Originally posted by EPW
              I havn't seen anything that indicates it has a built in sound or network card. I believe

              "Audio - Optical (S/PDIF), Audio - RCA Digital Coax (S/PDIF), Ethernet - RJ45 Twisted-Pair (XBaseT)"

              is just reffering to the interface socket things.
              I'm not of that opinion. See the specs on page xii in the manual.

              I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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              • #22
                I think I will compromise and go with the TWINX10243200C2PT version, its $70 dollars cheaper with nearly the same performance.
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                • #23
                  I have a Sonata too, and I'm only running it with the fan it came with. Very good piece of work, and with a good price.
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Kassiopeia
                    S754 is being kind of phased out, there won't be anything new beyond 3000+ for it AFAIK.
                    You're around 80-90% correct. For the rest, not. The Socket 754 will remain viable for the Sempron family for at least this and the next year, depending on how AMD seems to be into moving to one socket again. There has been speculation on several sites about it. However I really don't recommend Socket 754 for anything else than a longterm Sempron based PC which gets upgraded with new mobo and CPU in 3-5 years at the earliest. However no power user should concider it.

                    Oh, and a small advice to the one who started this topic. Do not overclock, unless you know enough about how it works, thermal solutions and other precautions. You're voiding your warranty with overclocking, so it's only for those with the know-how. Just a friendly warning, in case you're even a little bit uncertain about it.
                    "Kids, don't listen to uncle Solver unless you want your parents to spank you." - Solver

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                    • #25
                      Heres how is stands now, I decided to take Slowwhand's advice and get the Lite-on cd=rom/dvd-rw. I also decided to get a larger HD for only $20 more. I am still considering whether to get a cheaper processor.

                      CPU AMD 64 3700+ (Socket 939) $300
                      Graphics Card Connect3D Radeon X800XL $260
                      Motherboard Asus A8N-E Motherboard $120
                      Case+Power Antec sonata II with 450W PSU $120
                      Ram Corsair 1GB TWINX10243200C2PT $130
                      Hard Drive Seagate Barracuda ST3160023A 160GB $90
                      CD-Rom Lite-On LTN529S 52x IDE CD-ROM $21
                      DVD-RW Lite-On SOHW1673S "" Dual Layer DVD±RW Writer $53
                      Floppy Drive Mitsumi 3.5" $15

                      Total: $1109

                      Thanks for all your help and advice.
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                      • #26
                        ph34r my cheap budget PC I am about to build.

                        AMD Sempron 2200 - NZ$77.80
                        MoBo - NZ$67.95
                        HDD - 20GB, NZ$36
                        Power Supply - 300W - NZ$20
                        Case (ATX)- Bought from a dump for NZ$5 (Serious)
                        32X CD-ROM, CD-RW, Floppy Drive, Monitor, Mouse, Speakers, Keyboard, all pinched from a NZ$5 PC I bought 3 months ago
                        156MB RAM, 128MB GeForce II GFX - I think they were $50, bought 18 months ago.

                        Grand total: NZ$261.70, or US$183.19

                        I laugh in your ripped-off faces

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by EPW

                          Lite-On SOHW1673S
                          If you haven't ordered yet, drop this one and take the 1693S instead. That one is abit more enhanced and has the mistakes of the 1673S. The 1673S is worse in terms of reliability, while the 1693S recognises most media and is more reliable than the one you chose.
                          "Kids, don't listen to uncle Solver unless you want your parents to spank you." - Solver

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                          • #28
                            If you can afford it, buy two identical hard drives and use one for backups.
                            No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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                            • #29
                              I assume you're suggesting RAID mirroring to him?
                              "Kids, don't listen to uncle Solver unless you want your parents to spank you." - Solver

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                              • #30
                                Not necessarily.

                                I couldn't be bothered to set up a RAID, so I imaged the main disk the first time around, and now just copy over my irreplaceable files every so often.

                                If anything goes wrong on the main disk, I just switch the master/slave settings, and use the fully operational OS on the backup to figure out what went wrong.

                                I have been doing it this way for nearly a decade, and it has worked everytime "something bad" has come up.

                                Not that there's anything wrong with RAID.
                                No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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