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  • #16
    blackice was a DL.

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    • #17
      Ah, but my cause covers so many different issues....

      Plus I just started threads on MySpace and Telemarketing.

      And I'm much sexier.

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      • #18
        Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't women allowed to drive in Iraq? And to go to college, hold jobs, reveal their faces and hair and legs in public...
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        • #19
          Saudi Arabia is more conservative than Iraq. One of the most conservative (except Taliban Afghanistan). So conservative that Bahrain is considered a liberal vacation spot by Saudis. .

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          • #20
            lol we chose the wrong country LOL

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Q Cubed
              Yeah. I can't believe they won't just use the one valid argument, which is that women suck at driving because they're, well, women!
              Exactly.

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              • #22
                lol we chose the wrong country LOL

                Damn right you did
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                • #23
                  If these dudes took a minute to think they would realise it would be much more convenient for them to allow only women to drive. That way wifey drives while her husband relaxes in the passenger seat with a nice cold Mecca-Cola
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                  • #24
                    I find it amusing that this came up while there have been raging discussions about women priests in Catholicism

                    Organized religion
                    “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                    - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                    • #25
                      LOL

                      true! True women's slavery is having them to work for their men, what's the point in covering them?
                      I will never understand why some people on Apolyton find you so clever. You're predictable, mundane, and a google-whore and the most observant of us all know this. Your battles of "wits" rely on obscurity and whenever you fail to find something sufficiently obscure, like this, you just act like a 5 year old. Congratulations, molly.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Guynemer
                        Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't women allowed to drive in Iraq? And to go to college, hold jobs, reveal their faces and hair and legs in public...


                        Before the Liberation, yes.

                        Now, less so. Sharia Law has been introduced.
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Datajack Franit
                          LOL

                          true! True women's slavery is having them to work for their men, what's the point in covering them?


                          You are assuming that someone actually wins in a situation where group x oppresses group y. Most of the time, both groups lose. Oppression is quite insiduous.
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by St Leo
                            Originally posted by Datajack Franit
                            LOL

                            true! True women's slavery is having them to work for their men, what's the point in covering them?


                            You are assuming that someone actually wins in a situation where group x oppresses group y. Most of the time, both groups lose. Oppression is quite insiduous.
                            I never thought it about it much, but you are right. Because the oppressing group isn't that strong in the first place. So a country like the U.S. (or the oil companies) come in and oppress them all.

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                            • #29
                              From the Insurance Journal

                              Young Women Reportedly in the Driver's Seat
                              August 27, 2003

                              Common wisdom has it reportedly that it's the young men who are the fast drivers. Not anymore, reveals a national survey from The Hartford Financial Services Group.

                              "Our culture traditionally has associated young men with fast cars and fast driving," said George Thacker, senior vice president, personal lines marketing at The Hartford. "But that appears to be changing. Results from our recent survey of American drivers show that young women are literally leaving their male counterparts in the dust, and unfortunately, they're also getting into more accidents."

                              The survey reportedly found that 56 percent of women between the ages of 18 and 24 think it's acceptable to drive 10 mph over the speed limit on highways, compared to 46 percent of their male counterparts. And although the majority of young women and young men think it's not acceptable to speed on local roads, more young women (21 percent) say it's okay to speed than young men (13 percent).

                              "When it comes to driving, young women definitely appear to be living more dangerously, and like the male hot rodder of the past, they're suffering more of the consequences," said Thacker. "Forty-five percent of young women report being in an accident in the past three years, compared to 33 percent of young male drivers."

                              Thacker noted an interesting incongruity revealed by the survey: that even though young men are speeding less, they're getting more tickets than young women drivers. Forty-eight percent of young men have received a speeding ticket, compared to 37 percent of young women.

                              "The good news is that when it comes to obeying common rules of the road, young women tend to drive more cautiously than young men," continued Thacker. "They're more likely than their male counterparts to reduce speed when roads are wet, to avoid passing vehicles on the right and to stop when a school bus has yellow lights flashing.

                              "Young drivers need to be reminded of all the benefits of safe driving, including the financial ones. Fast driving, obviously, threatens safety and can cause accidents, but it also can drive up insurance costs. Parents with teenagers who are good drivers will want to make sure their premium accurately reflects the driving record and risk of each driver on their insurance policy."

                              The nationally representative study, which was conducted by Opinionsite, an independent research company, surveyed more than 1,000 registered drivers, aged 18 or older, across the country earlier this year. It had a +/- 3 percent margin of error.
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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Shi Huangdi


                                I mean some of the points they use to justify women not driving.
                                Nothing new, the same 'reasoning' can be found anywhere.
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