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  • Now under 16s actually have to break the law before the Police can nick them

    I just heard about this on newsround



    Boy, 15, wins curfew legal battle

    A 15-year-old boy has won a landmark High Court challenge to the legality of child curfew zones used to tackle anti-social behaviour.
    The teenager said the use of dispersal zones in Richmond, south-west London, breached his rights under the European Convention on Human Rights.

    Unaccompanied under-16s found in zones after 9pm can be held and escorted home, whether badly behaved or not.

    The Home Office said it would be appealing against the ruling.

    The police and Richmond Council had argued that curfew zones reduced anti-social behaviour.

    The High Court ruled that the law did not give the police a power of arrest, and officers could not force someone to come with them.

    Lord Justice Brooke said: "... All of us have the right to walk the streets without interference from police constables or CSOs unless they possess common law or statutory powers to stop us.

    "If Parliament considered that such a power was needed, it should have said so, and identified the circumstances in which it intended the power to be exercised."

    In a statement after the ruling the boy, known in the case as "W" and described as a "model student", said: "Of course I have no problem with being stopped by the police if I've done something wrong.

    "But they shouldn't be allowed to treat me like a criminal just because I'm under 16.



    Im glad the under 16 curfew has fallen over.....a terrible idea smuggled in under the wing of the dispersal zones.

    The youth of today If only they were as well behaved as their parents were in their teens, then we wouldnt need such laws at all

    I think the police might still be able to confiscate the kids alcohol though
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    I was completely unaware that there were curfews which I find somewhat disturbing that they have, as you say, been sneaked in. I think the problem is that the government is not dealing with the problem that causes the problems in youths rather than carry out some of their more despotic acts...
    Speaking of Erith:

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    • #3


      Another one bites the dust

      Hopefully America's youth oppression exports dont take hold in Europe. Fight them off.
      Captain of Team Apolyton - ISDG 2012

      When I was younger I thought curfews were silly, but now as the daughter of a young woman, I appreciate them. - Rah

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      • #4
        Well in Germany there is a curfew for under 16y old from 10pm and for under 18y old from midnight...
        If its no fun why do it? Dance like noone is watching...

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        • #5
          Re: Now under 16s actually have to break the law before the Police can nick them

          Originally posted by Snotty


          The youth of today If only they were as well behaved as their parents were in their teens, then we wouldnt need such laws at all
          They don't need such laws - if these youth are truly so misbehaved, the cops should have loads of offenses to charge them with, instead of harassing them for being outside.

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            • #7
              When I was younger I though curfews were silly, but now having a young woman as a daughter, I appreciated them.
              It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
              RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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              • #8
                Originally posted by rah
                When I was younger I though curfews were silly, but now as the daughter of a young woman, I appreciated them.

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                • #9
                  Damn, quoted before corrected. I got a phone call right as i submitted it so didn't check it right away.
                  It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
                  RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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                  • #10
                    You could also, erm... correct my post

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                    • #11
                      Curfews are retarded.
                      Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else?

                      It's no good (from an evolutionary point of view) to have the physique of Tarzan if you have the sex drive of a philosopher. -- Michael Ruse
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                      • #12
                        Good news. Curfews are horrible.
                        "I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
                        "I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
                        "I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- Dis

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Kuciwalker
                          You could also, erm... correct my post
                          Too late.


                          btw, I cleaned up some of the typos. I wouldn't want Rah to look silly.
                          Captain of Team Apolyton - ISDG 2012

                          When I was younger I thought curfews were silly, but now as the daughter of a young woman, I appreciate them. - Rah

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                          • #14
                            Ozzy, do you have a persecution complex? You seem to feel like the government is out to get you. Maybe they are! Run, Ozzy!
                            I never know their names, But i smile just the same
                            New faces...Strange places,
                            Most everything i see, Becomes a blur to me
                            -Grandaddy, "The Final Push to the Sum"

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                            • #15
                              Nah, he simply is a professional lobbyist for Youth Rights. Most of his points are interesting actually. His points on lower voting age are really interesting IMO, and they aren't the only ones.
                              "I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
                              "I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
                              "I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- Dis

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