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[JimmyCracksCorn]

Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia
spiff brought it up earlier,plus i AM gonna be living there in two weeks, im moving, plus i have citizenship, plus im half swiss.

Well, I plan on retiring to northern Mexico in 30 years, so why don't I just start speaking on behalf of all Mexicans.

But seriously, I'd say you need to live at least 5 years in a place before you can justify using "we". Until then, citizenship or not, you're just pretending.

[Lawrence of Arabia]

riiiight, because 30 years and two weeks are both in the same ballpark

But seriously, I'd say you need to live at least 5 years in a place before you can justify using "we". Until then, citizenship or not, you're just pretending.

if you say so, it must be true.

[Snotty]

Are you half Mexican?

I was brought up my parents who were Londoners, but didnt live there till I was 17...Still had enough cultural saturation and paid a lot more attention to the news to know what was going on there a hell of a lot better than anywhere else

[JimmyCracksCorn]

Lets face it, LOA. You've never lived in Switzerland. You're American.

Being "half swiss" means nothing, blood lines mean nothing. I'm half Irish, so does that give me the right to start speaking on behalf of all residents of Ireland? And say I had a piece of paper saying I was a citizen of Ireland - never having lived there - would that change anything? Absolutely not. I've never lived in Ireland, therefore I have almost no notion of what its like to live in Ireland.

What I'm saying is, taking a strong interest is fine, but going so far as to say "we" is just misleading.

[JimmyCracksCorn]

riiiight, because 30 years and two weeks are both in the same ballpark

And yes they are. The fact remains that neither one of us live there, or have ever lived there, up to this point in time. 30 years or 1 minute, its the same thing.

[Lawrence of Arabia]

Lets face it, LOA. You've never lived in Switzerland. You're American.

Being "half swiss" means nothing, blood lines mean nothing. I'm half Irish, so does that give me the right to start speaking on behalf of all residents of Ireland? And say I had a piece of paper saying I was a citizen of Ireland - never having lived there - would that change anything? Absolutely not. I've never lived in Ireland, therefore I have almost no notion of what its like to live in Ireland.

What I'm saying is, taking a strong interest is fine, but going so far as to say "we" is just misleading.

having citizenship changes everything - im expected to kill for switzerland if we ever get in a war. i can get a job, i can live there without hassel. i have voted, so I have a say in government. i have a place of origin - if i ever get into any type of trouble, that commune is forced by law to take me in and protect me even though I have never visited my place of origin in switzerland. (which is not uncommon, these places of origin have nothing to do where you were born but were fixed a long long time ago, where your far removed ancestors came from.) I cannot be extradicted without my consent. and who do I share these in common with? the rest of the citizens in that country. so it is we. we share a common thing (i even speak their language/dialect, eat the same foods they do.)

And yes they are. The fact remains that neither one of us live there, or have ever lived there, up to this point in time. 30 years or 1 minute, its the same thing.

you have no affiliation with mexico, presently, or in the next year. do you speak spanish? have you ever gone on vacation there? do your relatives live there? i can move around switzerland and no one would know that i'm an american; i would have no difficulty. can you say that about yourself in mexico? thats the difference between 30 years and two weeks.

[JimmyCracksCorn]

i can move around switzerland and no one would know that i'm an american;

Right.

you have no affiliation with mexico, presently, or in the next year. do you speak spanish? have you ever gone on vacation there?

I've gone every year for the past five, travelling extensively through most of the country. I can also speak Spanish proficiently. I guess I must be practically Mexican.

[Lawrence of Arabia]

I've gone every year for the past five, travelling extensively through most of the country. I can also speak Spanish proficiently. I guess I must be practically Mexican.

do you look mexican? no? you stick out like a sore thumb. do you have family in mexico? no? do you have mexican citizenship? no? can you work in mexico or live in mexico without the need to ask the government? no?

[JimmyCracksCorn]

Lets be real, LoA. Until you share the worldview of the average Swiss resident (which is impossible since you've never lived there), you're about as Swiss as I am Brazilian.

The legal right to live and work in a country because of paternal or maternal blood lines means nothing outside of a legal framework. Being a member of a society is more than just a legal thing.

[Kuciwalker]

JCC isn't even a real Canadian, for that matter. He's just an American pretending to be one.

[JimmyCracksCorn]

Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia


do you look mexican? no? you stick out like a sore thumb. do you have family in mexico? no? do you have mexican citizenship? no? can you work in mexico or live in mexico without the need to ask the government? no?

Tell me what a Swiss person looks like.

And actually, thats pretty presumptious. I said I was half Irish, not what the other half was.

When all is said and done, LoA, you're not a member of Swiss society, nor have you ever been. That would require living there, or at least visiting - at least once. When all is said and done, you're just an American with ties to Switzerland.

[JimmyCracksCorn]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker
LoA isn't even a real Canadian, for that matter. He's just an American pretending to be one.

I live here, and have lived here for almost a decade.

LoA has never set foot in Switzerland.

[Lawrence of Arabia]

Lets be real, LoA. Until you share the worldview of the average Swiss resident (which is impossible since you've never lived there), you're about as Swiss as I am Brazilian.

The legal right to live and work in a country because of paternal or maternal blood lines means nothing outside of a legal framework. Being a member of a society is more than just a legal thing.

and tell me what is the worldview of the average swiss? is it the view from Zurich? the view from Geneva? the view from Neuchatel? the view from the Grisons or the view from Ticino? or is it the worldview of all the immigrants in switzerland?

and its not impossible if you have never lived there. i have friends who are very swiss and who also have never lived there. their parents influenced them when they were younger.

LoA isn't even a real Canadian, for that matter. He's just an American pretending to be one.

i do not say about, i say aboot . . . I AM A CANAAAAAAAADIAN!!!!

[Kuciwalker]

That was supposed to read JCC. And you're still just a pretend Canadian.

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[JimmyCracksCorn]

LoA. My girlfriend is a Newfoundlander. I don't need government permission to work and travel in Newfoundland. I follow Newfoundland news. As someone of Irish decent, I wouldn't look any different than anyone else there. I even know lots of Newfoundland slang.

Does that make me a Newfoundlander? No.