Will Lance Armstrong take his 7th consecutive Tour de France win?

[Flubber]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Will Lance Armstrong take his 7th consecutive Tour de France win?

Originally posted by Winston


No, not if one apllies some common sense and takes a non-emotional look at what professional cycling has become.

What a charade.

I apply nothing but logic and sense to this. Armstrong is tested on season and off, randomly with blood and urine. I say randomly but its probably more accurate to say constantly.

So there are two choices here. Either he is clean OR he is so much better at doping that his stuff can never ever be detected even if he is tested the day he is doping. I don't find it likely that anyone is that good at doping so I choose to believe he is clean.

I give the same assumption to any athlete that is tested regularly even in sports where doping is common. As someone said . . . assumption of innocence and all that

[Lawrence of Arabia]

bottom line is that anything over 8% grade is where armstrong is enourmously better than his oipponents

which is why this tour has flattened many mountain stages and shortened the HC climbs.

[Flubber]

Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia
bottom line is that anything over 8% grade is where armstrong is enourmously better than his oipponents

which is why this tour has flattened many mountain stages and shortened the HC climbs.

But with at least FOUR climbs of 8% or greater it would appear that you believe Armstrong should increase his lead

[Drake Tungsten]

Rasmussen is a drugged-up cheat...

[Az]

I don't know much about this: what sort of drugs would they use?

[alva]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
Rasmussen is a drugged-up cheat...

and why is that?

[Tuberski]

Originally posted by OzzyKP
No banana option for those of us who could give a rats a.ss about bike racing?

Valverde works as a banana option.

ACK!

[alva]

Originally posted by Az
I don't know much about this: what sort of drugs would they use?

Some pretty weird stuff, also often very experimentalso that they can't detect it.

[OzzyKP]

Originally posted by Az
I don't know much about this: what sort of drugs would they use?

Marijuana. Everyone knows marijuana is a drug enhancement, that can help you on track in field, to come – last in a team – of eight million…eight million other runners who are all dead.

[Lawrence of Arabia]

But with at least FOUR climbs of 8% or greater it would appear that you believe Armstrong should increase his lead

if he feels threatened, then yes. if he does not, then i expect him to maintain it. if he feels like humiliating everyone, then he can. if not, he will play it easy as it goes

Marijuana. Everyone knows marijuana is a drug enhancement, that can help you on track in field, to come – last in a team – of eight million…eight million other runners who are all dead.

tell that to imran - he thinks its a performance enhancer.

[St Leo]

Cowboy Banana Neal will win, you insensitive clod!

[Az]

Some pretty weird stuff, also often very experimentalso that they can't detect it.

Chemical experiments

[Zoid]

Originally posted by Flubber
Zoidberg

I was curious as to your selection of riders for the poll. I'm not saying your selections were wrong but I am curious as to your logic to include say Vino and exclude say Botero, Leipheimer, Mancebo, landis and Kloden, all of whom lead Vino (albeit by less than a minute) in the GC. I know Kloden tends to get overlooked and there was some early rumblings that he was off-form .

Well I must admit to not having followed the Tour as much as I did last year, so some of the choices might seem odd. But at least I didn´t include Virenque

[Zoid]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Will Lance Armstrong take his 7th consecutive Tour de France win?

Originally posted by Flubber


I apply nothing but logic and sense to this. Armstrong is tested on season and off, randomly with blood and urine. I say randomly but its probably more accurate to say constantly.

So there are two choices here. Either he is clean OR he is so much better at doping that his stuff can never ever be detected even if he is tested the day he is doping. I don't find it likely that anyone is that good at doping so I choose to believe he is clean.

I give the same assumption to any athlete that is tested regularly even in sports where doping is common. As someone said . . . assumption of innocence and all that

I agree. Some people just can´t accept that Armstrong really is that good at what he does.

[alva]

He's got more of a chance than Moreau got though.