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    Victims' families call for federal VLT inquiry

    By SCOTT DEVEAU

    Monday, June 27, 2005 Updated at 5:05 PM EDT

    Globe and Mail Update

    John O'Donnell, a chaplain with the Interfaith Council of Halifax, was hit by the pervasiveness of video lottery addiction well before 150 people showed up Sunday night at a Halifax church.

    While he was looking for help last week for the vigil to remember those who committed suicide resulting from their addiction, Mr. O'Donnell asked one of his university-age parishioners and her sister to volunteer at the event.

    The usually helpful girl met his request with silence. After a short pause, the girl offered an explanation.

    "I'd love to be there," she told Mr. O'Donnell, "but my family is moving next week because of our father has just lost everything to VLTs."

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    "I bump into this stuff on a very regular basis," Mr. O'Donnell said in an interview with globeandmail.com Monday. "I'm one of the ones who helps them pick up the pieces."

    Families and friends of people from Quebec, Newfoundland and Labrador, New Brunswick and Nova Scotia whose lives has been affected by VLT addiction held a press conference Monday in Halifax calling for a federal inquiry into the social and economic impact of continuous electronic gambling machines such as Keno, slot machines and VLTs.

    The vigil Sunday night, which included members of various religious faiths, including Muslims, Buddhists, Hindu, Native, and Christians kicked off a symposium in Halifax Tuesday organized by the anti-gambling citizen group GameOverVLTs.com. The group is pushing for an outright ban of VLTs in the province.

    The symposium will feature psychologist Frank Quinn, who has done extensive research on VLTs in South Carolina — the only jurisdiction in North America to have had the machines at one time before moving to an outright ban in 2000.

    Nova Scotia takes in more than $174-million from its more than 3,800 VLTs in bars, casinos, and bingo halls across the province.

    The province has promised to reduce the number of machines by 1,000. However, in the meantime, each of the estimated 7,500 problem VLT gamblers in the province, is thought to lose roughly $1,200 a month to VLTs.

    Newfoundland announced a plan this spring that would reduce the number of VLTs in the province by 15 per cent over five years.

    Quebec is removing more than 2,500 VLTs from neighbourhood bars and putting them into centralized gaming parlours.

    Meanwhile, Ontario has imposed a moratorium on casion expansion, British Columbia has said it won't put VLTs in bars and lounges, and Alberta set a goal to reduce the number of locations with VLTs up to 15 per cent.

    Manitoba is one of the only provinces that seems to be moving in the other direction, with recent plans to add to its stock of VLTs.

    In Nova Scotia, the provincial government, while planning to reduce the number of machines, has no plans for outright ban.

    Hugh Fraser, spokesman for Nova Scotia Premier John Hamm, said banning VLTs could lead to more illegal gambling.

    GameOverVLTs.com is co-chaired by Halifax MLA and former Liberal leader Danny Graham. Mr. Graham said Nova Scotia's dependency on gambling dollars is analogous to an addiction of its own.

    He said that, intellectually, the government knows that VLTs are the most "the most pernicious form of gambling."

    "They know what the right thing to do is, but they just can't break the habit," Mr. Graham said.

    Mr. Graham said the negative social impact of the machines outweighs the economic benefits. The only argument left, he said, is that without government regulations an underground industry would be created, inviting organized crime.

    Mr. Graham said Mr. Quinn will be presenting research showing that by using only a $500 fine, South Carolina law-enforcement officials have been able to pronounce that the "scourge is gone."

    "If this is the only remaining argument left for the Premier to wave his magic wand," Mr. Graham said, "(the symposium) should give him a reason to wave that wand."
    Help help, I'm from the east coast and keep spending my money in VLTs! Ban these Satanic devices at once!

    While you're at it, ban alcohol and the internet! I know people addicted to those, too.
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    • #3
      What ever happened with the Greek videogame ban from few years back?

      If I recall correctly, it happened because a ban on video gambling was poorly phrased.

      Strange how in some places gambling becomes a national problem.

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      • #4
        There's something in the water in Nova Scotia -- one of my great grandpas was from Nova Scotia and was both a gambler and an alcoholic.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Asher
          There's something in the water in Nova Scotia -- one of my great grandpas was from Nova Scotia and was both a gambler and an alcoholic.
          Its called unemployment and a culture revolved around booze.

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            In the middle of the article

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            • #7
              yeah
              Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..

              Look, I just don't anymore, okay?

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              • #8
                Re: I can't control my addiction, ban it!!!!

                Originally posted by Asher


                Help help, I'm from the east coast and keep spending my money in VLTs! Ban these Satanic devices at once!

                While you're at it, ban alcohol and the internet! I know people addicted to those, too.
                You're right. The government should take the next step of introducing heroin into an environment where people are already having their judgement impaired.

                Just think of the taxes that could be generated!
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                • #9
                  Re: Re: I can't control my addiction, ban it!!!!

                  Originally posted by notyoueither
                  You're right. The government should take the next step of introducing heroin into an environment where people are already having their judgement impaired.

                  Just think of the taxes that could be generated!
                  Better yet, why not have Nova Scotia grow government-subsidized marijuana?

                  Sell it to the rest of the nation, tax it.

                  Everybody wins!!!!!
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                  • #10
                    I take it you do not grant that gambling can be an addiction to a certain percentage of the population.
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                    • #11
                      I then take it that you feel it is a good thing for the government to induce people to try gambling, and some of them thus become addicted, by putting machines designed to attract and ensnare in public places and especially in parlours where alcohol is being imbibed.

                      Let's go all the way and put cigarette machines in public schools!
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                      • #12
                        The lottery and heroin are not comparable.

                        If an individual state feels they need it? Then let them have it. If an individual state feels it doesn't need it, then let them not have it.

                        No big deal.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by mrmitchell
                          The lottery and heroin are not comparable.

                          If an individual state feels they need it? Then let them have it. If an individual state feels it doesn't need it, then let them not have it.

                          No big deal.
                          You see no problem with the state being the pusher of a practice that takes extreme advantage of certain individuals?
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                          • #14
                            VLTs are a bit unlike tobacco and alcohol. The state does not produce either of those substances, they just tax the hell out of it and funnel the consumption.

                            VLTs OTOH, are vice produced by the state with the sole intent of profit for the state, and the machines are designed to create victims of a small percentage of the population who will be drawn in and then have the mental pieces of addiction fall into place. Take any 1000 citizens and there will be some small number who are seriously effected. Expose 10's of thousands and you will have more than a few ruined lives to profit off of.

                            VLTs in bars and public places are a moral abomination. Any democrat of merely pedestrian intelligence should be able to understand that.
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                            • #15
                              You see no problem with the state being the pusher of a practice that takes extreme advantage of certain individuals?
                              You see a problem with teachers getting paid?

                              Actually, I kind of see your point. But where are you proposing we get the money from, that the lottery has been paying to the government?
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