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    Freedom FROM religion.

    I hold the belief that freedom FROM religion is just as important as the other side of the coin -- freeom OF religion. This is the latest news update about the Air Force Academy and the aggressiveness of some of the religious fundies within this institution.

    Air Force Academy's struggle with religious freedom
    A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.
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    Well they're in the right job to get close to God
    Speaking of Erith:

    "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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    • #3
      What a lame joke -- and this is coming from ME, for christ's sake.
      A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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      • #4
        How can anyone want freedom from God, you monster!

        I wonder what has attracted so many evangelicals to the air force? Maybe the Army is too gritty and the Navy too gay?
        If you don't like reality, change it! me
        "Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
        "it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
        "Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard Shaw

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        • #5
          What else can you say though? You can argue with the biblebashers until you are blue in the face - they are brainwashed and that is the end of it. They are adamant they are correct despite evidence to the contrary. And their righteousness...that is another subject altogether.

          We know where reason gets with them...nowhere...
          Speaking of Erith:

          "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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          • #6
            Well, I hope that the publicity of this issue compels the higher-ups to take serious corrective action.
            A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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            • #7
              Why?

              Liberals could not really care enough about people in the Military to mount much of a campaign. Religious conservatives will applaud this, and the general public won't care.
              If you don't like reality, change it! me
              "Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
              "it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
              "Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard Shaw

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              • #8
                Originally posted by GePap
                Why?

                Liberals could not really care enough about people in the Military to mount much of a campaign. Religious conservatives will applaud this, and the general public won't care.
                And you think the general public would be indifferent with such a fundamental issue as freedom of religion, because . . . . . .?



                For the record, I'm a liberal and I care about issues concerning freedom of religion and freedom from religion.
                A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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                • #9
                  Yes, I think the general public will be indifferent because memmebsr are not forced to be evangelicals, just strongly pressured. People can then assume they can always say no, and no harm will come.

                  If actual proof, as oposed to allegations, of people being denied promotions or such for thier non-evangelical beliefs came out, then maybe, just maybe, but barely.
                  If you don't like reality, change it! me
                  "Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
                  "it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
                  "Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard Shaw

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Provost Harrison
                    What else can you say though? You can argue with the biblebashers until you are blue in the face - they are brainwashed and that is the end of it. They are adamant they are correct despite evidence to the contrary. And their righteousness...that is another subject altogether.

                    We know where reason gets with them...nowhere...
                    nice to see you keeping an open mind
                    "The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.

                    "The most obvious predicition about the future is that it will be mostly like the past" - Alain de Botton

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                    • #11
                      I don't care if someone has religious beliefs and are part of the deffence unless if they have some kind descision right or control of wmd's. If they have that , then they should be treated at the same level as potential supporters of communism or "extreme right wing".

                      Just as religion doesn't have any place in public schools, it doesn't have any place in the army/navy/airforce.
                      With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

                      Steven Weinberg

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by C0ckney


                        nice to see you keeping an open mind
                        Open your mind to that codswallop and they'll brainwash you!
                        Speaking of Erith:

                        "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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                        • #13
                          Re: Freedom FROM religion.

                          Originally posted by MrFun
                          I hold the belief that freedom FROM religion is just as important as the other side of the coin -- freeom OF religion. This is the latest news update about the Air Force Academy and the aggressiveness of some of the religious fundies within this institution.

                          Air Force Academy's struggle with religious freedom
                          Bombing heathens for God? What's wrong with that?
                          When all else fails, blame brown people. | Hire a teen, while they still know it all. | Trump-Palin 2016. "You're fired." "I quit."

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by MrFun


                            And you think the general public would be indifferent with such a fundamental issue as freedom of religion, because . . . . . .?
                            That's the historical trend.


                            For the record, I'm a liberal and I care about issues concerning freedom of religion and freedom from religion.
                            And you're what most Amurkins will consider a Godless commie wacko when you talk about "freedom from religion" - can't you just see the wailing and gnashing of teeth?
                            When all else fails, blame brown people. | Hire a teen, while they still know it all. | Trump-Palin 2016. "You're fired." "I quit."

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                            • #15
                              Yes, I can visualize a Christian fundie foaming at the mouth with my statements.
                              A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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