Help UK army recruit shortages?

[child of Thor]

@reds4ever,
I'm sure this friends nephew will come out almost unrecognisable to when he went on the show(in a good way).

I just think for many of todays social behaviour problems being expressed in the young, we could/should experiment with this idea. If it helps solve the growing problems of youth crime and tackles army recruitment shortages, then its a win-win situation?

[Bosh]

Bosh, ref your last post - if your ever over here in the UK, take a trip to Catterick in yorkshire(its an army base town) and you'll sadly realise the truth that already the most dangerous/dubious people get to be soldiers

I don't think they're that dangerous/dubious, most of the people that I know who ended up the army were good people who did so because they didn't know what the hell else to do and it looked like an OK default. I went to Korea to teach for much the same reason and there's nothing (much) wrong with me.

[Patroklos]

drilling them with military doctrine doesn't change their attitudes, it just prevents them from roaming the streets.

Obviously you need some drilling...

Seriously, I know people who have absolutely no resemblence to their pre military life.

Kind of like when some of the people here took up communism...

[child of Thor]

@ Bosh,
Our infantry regiments are a little different i would suggest, at least the rank and file of it

Imagine the holiday islands in spain where young brits go to 'have a good time' and piss of the locals.

Now give that picture some military training and send them of to Iraq

I think thats why we've won many battles?

@Patroklos,

I agree with that, i know a few army mates(the stories they tell ). You dont go through the mill unchanged.

[reds4ever]

Originally posted by child of Thor


Now give that picture some military training and send them of to Iraq

I think thats why we've won many battles?

Maybe the fact that back in the good old days the opposition used to charge Howitzers armed with shapened sticks had something to do with it?

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

Re: Help UK army recruit shortages?

Originally posted by child of Thor
Should we send societies undesirables to join the military?

They usually make their own way there without coercion.

[Impaler[WrG]]

Bingo!!!

The more Shrub screws our economy the more people turn to the Military to survive (or not). The problem is that the job is getting more sophisticated and you need more elite members of society to do it, the pay simply hasn't been desirable enough durring the 90's with such a booming economy (I miss Bill ). And now were in a "quagmire" so thier very little of the cool high skilled high paying jobs left its all grunt work from this point on.

[Dinner]

Hire Africans and South Asians. It used to be a British standby.

[Dis]

Will they allow an american to join their army? If so, then I'll join.

[Pyrodrew]

Originally posted by Dissident
Will they allow an american to join their army?

Maybe. But no underwear!

A notice was issued to members of the army, navy and airforce in January after tailors complained about military personnel turning up to be fitted for their parade uniforms without wearing any underpants, a Ministry of Defence spokesman said Monday.
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The instruction applied to both male and female members of the military, said the spokesman, noting that the tailors also likely comprised both sexes.

The comments came after The Sun tabloid, Britain's best-selling daily, revealed that the instructions were issued to sailors who kept on exposing themselves at measurings.
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"It's always been the macho thing not to wear underpants," he said.

Are you macho enough to expose yourself to a tailor soldier?

[alva]

Originally posted by Sir Ralph


May be true, but this time I promise we'll looking for it exclusively in France. Deal?

Different route this time, ok?! Go through the alpes, long time since that's been done.

Oh, and the Italians will be on our side this time around, that should even up things a little bit more.

[Ted Striker]

An army of chavs.

Well, they always act "tough," let's see them put all that stage hostility to use.

[Lonestar]

No. God no. Except in a national emegancy (which the Iraq Occupation isn't) we should do our best to steer clear of criminals in the armed services. Enough get in without being actively recruited.

[child of Thor]

Originally posted by Ted Striker
An army of chavs.

Well, they always act "tough," let's see them put all that stage hostility to use.

Well i'm 90% certain that it would remove the 'chav' from them, leaving simply a soldier behind and a more postive member of society. At the very least it would remove them from the streets terrorising old ladies etc, and teach them a bit about life and real respect.

It wouldn't work with the odd few, but overall i think a bit of structure+discipline is probably what these kids are crying out for? better than simply collecting dole money every week and turning to drugs etc.

Maybe i'm looking at it from only the positive angles, but the only down side i can see is that the kind of life and routine you would have to put up with might disturb some people(although its more free than prison where many are heading).