Star Wars vs Lord of the Rings - thoughts about Theoden and Palpatine

[Kuciwalker]

Why not?

edit: re the first question

[Imran Siddiqui]

Because then he'd have to do extensive fact checking to make sure he didn't step on any toes. That is why in fantasy series, it invariably takes longer to get the later books out because of all the fact checking to make sure you didn't mess anything up.

Easier to say, what I say wins in the heirarchy. The EU fills in any gaps I make, as long as no contridiction.

[Kuciwalker]

Then it's just as likely that he was ignoring the inconsistency of his plot device with the Dark Empire comics.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Perhaps, but I think Lucas also wanted to create discussion and mystery as to whether Anakin really fulfill's the prophesy. That's why he had Jedi Masters questioning if they were correct about the prophesy.

[Kuciwalker]

And I think he was going for the coolness factor in having the prophecy be correct but in a way none of the Jedi Masters forsaw.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Well, if Lucas wanted Anakin to fulfill the prophecy by killing all the Sith, then how do you have an Episode 7, 8, and 9 which Lucas said he had as well. Without any Sith, they become much more boring, don't they?

[Kuciwalker]

New Jedi fall on their own. We know the Sith are gone because there are always only two.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Once again, then how do you have an Ep 7, 8, and 9 without Sith?

The Emperor has to 'reform' for there to be any sequal trilogy. Or else, it wouldn't work. What, they fight Empire Generals?

[Kuciwalker]

Why not? That's what the EU has mostly, except for Dark Empire.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Yeah, because Force killing animals will translate well on screen, as well as a non Sith villian who strategizes so well he could be a psychohistorian.

And where are all the lightsaber duels to display the effects?

[Kuciwalker]

Force killing animals?

And Thrawn would be AWESOME in a movie.

And where are all the lightsaber duels to display the effects?

C'baoth.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Force killing animals?

The ysalamiri.

And Thrawn would be AWESOME in a movie.

Even us who have seen the ubervillians would say this was too much. He acts as though he should have Force powers in seeing the future, but really doesn't.

C'baoth.

Oooh.. One Sith.

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui

Force killing animals?

The ysalamiri.

Oh, I thought you meant using the force to kill animals.

Even us who have seen the ubervillians would say this was too much. He acts as though he should have Force powers in seeing the future, but really doesn't.

No... and he even makes mistakes. He's incredibly cool, especially since he's a *good* bad guy.

Oooh.. One Sith.

No, one insane Jedi Master

[JohnT]

In regards to Canon in SW, this post at the SDMB explains how it works (the discussion is how the walkers got on Hoth):

Actually, the way canon (not cannon, btw) works in Star Wars, anything in the game is canon until it is contradicted by something else.

Apparently everything is canon in the Star Wars universe (with a handful of specific exceptions). What they have is a hierarchy-type structure which says what trumps what when there are contradictions.

The highest level is the movies. They trump everything. The authorized novels come next. When they contradict the movies the movies take precedence, but otherwise they trump everything except the movies. And so on...

Games have some special rules. Game scenarios are considered canon (and this includes all games; computer, RPG and even SWG) but the outcome of the scenarios are not.

So, unless something specifically says otherwise elsewhere further up the hierarchy, the scenario as described would be canon. (Even if a movie or novel showed another method of deploying AT-ATs, it still wouldn't contradict the game unless it specifically said that the method used was the only one ever employed or that "drop ships" were never used anywhere.)

Yeah, canonosity in Star Wars can be fun...

[Dr Strangelove]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker


But not the one who killed the last Sith.

My own pet theory (which since it involves KOTOR and Zahn stuff probably isn't true) is that restoring balance wasn't in killing off the Sith but in getting rid of the fake Sith i.e. fallen Jedi. The real Sith are still out there in the Unknown Regions and they're what Thrawn was scared of.

Maybe restoring balance to the force really involved killing off most of the Jedi, who because they had learned to live a very long time were hogging too many midi-chlorians ( who incidently are also essential to keeping your pool clean ) and had become stagnant. Remember that Lucas was a student of myths and religions. If the force was modeled after "Yin and Yang", then you can't have a whole lot of good without having a whole lot of evil. By releasing the midi-chlorians being monopolized by the Jedi their power could be dispersed elsewhere in the galaxy for whatever ends. Perhaps people were getting sick from Pseudomonas or Staphylococcus in poorly sanitized pools and hot tubs.