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  • Europe's Oldest Civilization?

    Not exactly on the same scale as the pyramids but you got to start somewhere uh

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    LONDON (AFP) - Europe's oldest civilisation has reportedly been discovered by archaelogists across the continent.
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    More than 150 large temples, constructed between 4800 BC and 4600 BC, have been unearthed in fields and cities in Germany, Austria and Slovakia, predating the pyramids in Egypt by some 2,000 years, The Independent newspaper revealed.

    The network of temples, made of earth and wood, were constructed by a religious people whose economy appears to have been based on livestock farming, The Independent reported.

    Excavations have taken place over the past three years but the discovery is so new that the civilisation has not yet been named.

    The most complex centre discovered so far, beneath the city of Dresden in Saxony, eastern Germany, comprises a temple surrounded by four ditches, three earthen banks and two palisades.

    "Our excavations have revealed the degree of monumental vision and sophistication used by these early farming communities to create Europe's first truly large scale earthwork complexes," said Harald Staeuble, from the Saxony state government's heritage department.

    The temples, up to 150 metres (164 yards) in diameter, were made by a people who lived in long houses and villages, the newspaper said. Stone, bone, and wooden tools have been unearthed, along with ceramic figures of people and animals.

    A village at Aythra, near Leipzig in eastern Germany, was home to some 300 people living in up to 20 large buildings around the temple.

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    Did these people worship a carpenter? Or an old man?
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    • #3
      There is a place in Utah that they are now looking at.
      It appears to be between 5000 to 6000 years ago.
      That would make it between 3000 to 4000 BC

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      • #4
        Wow!

        Cool article.

        Any pics?
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        • #5
          Yeah, Europe had some great pre-historic stuff going on. BBC America had a special a few weeks back about several mound & earthwork fortress builders in England which predated Stonehenge. They looked like a pretty complex system of defensive mounds and palicades which were shaped like concentric circles with openings for each ring on opposite sides from the last. That meant archers got lots of time to pick off bad guys before they got through the walls.
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          • #6
            Very cool
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            • #7
              Pfft. There are dolmens near Sligo (Ireland) that are over three thousand years older than that. It's a very long way off being Europe's oldest civilisation.
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              • #8
                They were probably pagans. No carpenter worshipping back in those days!

                I was watching a documentary on pagans.... apparently some of them used to have sex with their horses.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Oerdin
                  Yeah, Europe had some great pre-historic stuff going on. BBC America had a special a few weeks back about several mound & earthwork fortress builders in England which predated Stonehenge. They looked like a pretty complex system of defensive mounds and palicades which were shaped like concentric circles with openings for each ring on opposite sides from the last. That meant archers got lots of time to pick off bad guys before they got through the walls.
                  Are you sure there would of been "archers" in england at that time? (or just people throwing stuff?)
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                    • #11
                      The network of temples, made of earth and wood
                      and what exactly remains from that after 7000 years????? and what is this earth material?
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by MarkG
                        The network of temples, made of earth and wood
                        and what exactly remains from that after 7000 years????? and what is this earth material?

                        I suspect that what remains is evidence of postholes, and rammed earth, or soil.

                        Postholes:

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                        Evidence of ditches and banks of soil:

                        This site is particularly significant because of the association of a circular ditched enclosure or ringwork with a contemporary field system, as well as clusters of enclosed and unenclosed circular structures. Two enclosures were formed by rings of pits or large postholes.



                        So we aren't talking about the Temple of Artemis at Ephesus or Skara Brae.
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                        • #13
                          original story
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by General Ludd


                            Are you sure there would of been "archers" in england at that time? (or just people throwing stuff?)
                            The simple bow was apparently invented ca 8000 BC.
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                              Link on Russian Dolmen's with map of their locations and pictures of various similiar structures in Europe.
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