Bush shol does a lot of politickin'

[Sprayber]

Originally posted by Pax

It kills me when people who are not interested in a topic make a comment. If it's "Duh" to you why not just move along and let people with something to contribute to the discussion make their posts. Duh. Or is some form of attention seeking on your part?

It's not attention seeking. Why is it that you think that Bush politicickin is anything new? Its what they all do. It kills me when someone seeking attention makes a thread like this. It's a simple bash Bush thread and that's all it ever was going to be.

[Sprayber]

Originally posted by MrFun


Um, that wasn't my point. Clinton had to lie at times too, I'm sure because he's a politician, but Bush takes it to another, lower level.

So your ok with being lied to as long as its not done by Bush?

[Sprayber]

Re: Bush shol does a lot of politickin'

Originally posted by Pax
Everytime I turn on the TV, it seems like his smug face is on the news. I've got to hand it to him. He has a lot of presence and the best ability to get his message out I've seen. I think he's better than Clinton and Reagan in that respect. He also seems to get pretty much what he wants when he wants it. I guess that's the power of the darkside.

OH and another reason you see his smug face on TV a lot is that he is the President of The United States and the media has an entire corp of reporters following him. They have to have something to fill up their 24 hours of news. So if you don't want to see him turn off the damn TV more or watch another station. That's what I did. The reason you notice it is that you hate him. If you liked the man in office then his politickin would bother you so much. Hell, you wouldn't even consider it politickin.

[Dinner]

Originally posted by Ned
Power of the Dark Side?

Well, I guess you're right, George Lucas did pattern some of his Darth Vader/Emperor characters on Bush, assuming you agree with the left's or Buchanan's distortions of Bush's foreign policy.

You do realize that the story was written in the 1970's long before there was a Bush to pattern, right?

[Sprayber]

Originally posted by Oerdin


You do realize that the story was written in the 1970's long before there was a Bush to pattern, right?

The PT wasn't written in the 70's. Lucus finished the last script about two years ago.

[MarkG]

Originally posted by Oerdin


You do realize that the story was written in the 1970's long before there was a Bush to pattern, right?

yeah but sw3 has that "with me or against me" line, doesnt it?

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Sprayber
The PT wasn't written in the 70's. Lucus finished the last script about two years ago.

Yes it was. All of the stories were written in the 70's. That's different from the final script.

[Sprayber]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker


Yes it was. All of the stories were written in the 70's. That's different from the final script.

Lucus used what he had for the first three. The PT is backstory. Sure he used some ideas from the early days but the story of the PT was not written in the 70s

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Sprayber


So your ok with being lied to as long as its not done by Bush?

That wasn't my point either.


Stop being such a jackass.

[Pax]

Originally posted by Sprayber


It's not attention seeking. Why is it that you think that Bush politicickin is anything new? Its what they all do. It kills me when someone seeking attention makes a thread like this. It's a simple bash Bush thread and that's all it ever was going to be.

Actually, I only want to bring attention to the issue. With the exception of the power of the dark side JOKE, I did not say anything to indicate that I hate him. In fact, I'm complementing him on his ability to get what he wants.

[BlackCat]

Originally posted by Bosh

Exactly. Its easy to imagine that a smooth talker is lying to you, but if someone stumbles over his words and looks really really earnest he must be telling the truth!

I thought that his inability to be a smooth talker and sometimes dumb looking was taken as a proof that he didn't have a brain and was a blatant liar. What have I missed ?

[Pax]

I've always maintained that Bush was extremely smart. There's not one post that I've made that refers to him as dumb.

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by DanS
His strategy is to stay on the local news rather than the national news. He does this by traveling around the country and giving these short speeches. Many more people watch the local news and even if you hate the guy, you will notice when POTUS shows up in your home town in his 747.

He's got a good, disciplined political operation that knows what it's doing.

Hiding from the real issues and ducking the mismanagement of everything from the economy to North Korea to trade with China to the war in Iraq, while slowly moseying away from any acknowledgment of having blown the majority of his reelection political capital on sinking the prospects for privatization of social security?

[Dracon II]

I think the idea of a "permanent campaign" has been increasing in relevance for a long time... Bush or no Bush. The amount of travel the President does within the country has been more or less on the increase for many decades... aided by advances in communications technology no doubt.

I don't fault Bush for cynically using the media, and his colloquial/unsophisticated idiom, to his advantage. That's the game of the politician, and its to the fault of the people who are led on by it. A democratic politician is really only going to be as dumb, or intelligent, as the people want him/her to be.

This is 21st Century democracy, American style. If you don't like it, don't vote for it.

[Seeker]

I think the most important thing the bu****es are doing is message discipline. Anyone who actually knows anything tells only the canned party line, and they are constantly out there regurgitating it. They are ALWAYS 'on message' in a disciplined way.