New Bach piece discovered!

[molly bloom]

Originally posted by curtsibling
Bach played music for the elite.

What, the elite churchgoers ?

[JohnT]

Well, he did have some court appointments early in his career - Cothen was one of them, as was Weimar (where he composed most of his organ works.)

I almost said the same thing, but thought that there might be a chance, however small, that curtsibling might know what he's talking about and was referencing the appointments.

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Bkeela
I wish they would discover a previously unreleased Beatles album.

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
own goal!

You can't seriously claim you were trolling for anti-commies.

[molly bloom]

Originally posted by JohnT
(where he composed most of his organ works.)

Most popular with Mrs. Bach, given the number of progeny they had.

I like this comment:

The Church Council resolved to reprimand Bach on his 'strange sounds' during the services.

[JohnT]

Most popular with Mrs. Bach, given the number of progeny they had.

Both of them, actually. Imagine having 7 kids with wife #1, you go off on an extended trip, come back to find wife #1 dead, and then marry your second-cousin just to pump out another 13 kids.

Bach, regardless of the wig, was nothing but a big horndog stud, a man who easily would out-Ted Striker Ted Striker.

[molly bloom]

Originally posted by JohnT


Bach, regardless of the wig, was nothing but a big horndog stud.

You know, I was shocked to discover that wasn't how Grove described him.


J. S. Bach : Baroque 'n' roll Ron Jeremy.

[JohnT]

What does Grove know about horndog studs?

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker


You can't seriously claim you were trolling for anti-commies.

If I had been, then I'd have claimed 100-nil!

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by molly bloom
J. S. Bach : Baroque 'n' roll Ron Jeremy.

[mindseye]

On a related note:

Lost Vivaldi Opera Finally Gets Its Music and Words Together


By ALAN RIDING
The New York Times
June 13, 2005

ROTTERDAM, the Netherlands, June 12 - Antonio Vivaldi returned to his hometown, Venice, early in 1733, eager to reclaim his place as the Venetian republic's most popular composer. During his five-year absence, younger Naples-trained musicians had come to the fore with their own "dramas with music," but now, at 55, Vivaldi was ready to take them on with a daringly modern opera inspired by Hernán Cortés's conquest of the Aztecs.

How the work, "Motezuma," was received at its premiere at the Teatro di Sant'Angelo in Venice in the fall of 1733 is not known. But it can be assumed that it did not revive Vivaldi's fortunes. He wrote at least two more operas in Venice before moving to Vienna in March 1740 to seek the patronage of the Hapsburg Empire. And it was there, reportedly in a state of penury, that he died on July 28, 1741.

The existence of "Motezuma" has long been known, because its libretto survived, even inspiring Alejo Carpentier's 1974 novel, "Baroque Concert." Now, thanks to the efforts of a German musicologist, Steffen Voss, its score has also finally been found. And on Saturday evening, in a concert version at De Doelen, a concert hall here, lyrics and music were heard together, perhaps for the first time since 1733.

In reality, Mr. Voss came across only about 70 percent of the score when he was looking for lost Handel cantatas in the archives of the Sing-Akademie in Berlin in February 2002. Although the score's cover page was missing, since he was familiar with the libretto of "Motezuma," he immediately recognized the names of the voice parts and felt sure he had found a missing treasure.

His initial impression was quickly confirmed by experts, including some who last year challenged the authorship of "Andromeda Liberata," initially claimed to be another lost Vivaldi opera. "Yes, it is real," Michael Talbot, a British music professor and author of two biographies of Vivaldi, said of "Motezuma." "Some of the material is common to authenticated works, like arias used in earlier operas. The stylistic parameters are also familiar. Beyond all doubt this is real."

Kees Vlaardingerbroek, De Doelen's artistic director and himself a Vivaldi expert, agreed. "This is the most important Vivaldi discovery in 75 years," he said, "since Vivaldi's own archives were found in the 1920's."

Vivaldi's choice of the conquest of Mexico as his subject was unsurprising, since exotic stories set in distant lands were all the rage in 18th-century Europe. In 1755, Frederick the Great of Prussia himself wrote a fiercely anti-Catholic libretto for Carl Heinrich Graun's "Montezuma." And another "Montezuma" libretto a decade later by Vittorio Amedeo Cigna-Santi was set to music by no fewer than seven composers through 1781.

In Vivaldi's case, although it is uncertain whether the libretto was by Alvise Giusti or Girolamo Giusti, the author seemed less interested in history than in recounting a fictitious love story between the Aztec emperor's daughter, Teutile, and Cortés's brother, Ramiro. "Opera has a template," Mr. Talbot said. "Mismatched lovers at the beginning of an opera get matched by the end of the opera, and that's more important than whether it is set in Mexico or China."

Since the score for the first seven scenes is missing, Saturday's performance opened with Cortés already in control of the Aztec capital of Tenóchitlan. Motezuma - the librettist invented this spelling over the more familiar Montezuma or the Mexican Moctezuma, perhaps for simplicity's sake - is in despair, ready to order Teutile's death for falling in love with Ramiro. But Motezuma's strong-willed wife, Mitrena, stands up to Cortés.

As was common with "opera seria," the score consists of long recitatives interspersed with arias. Of the 22 arias identified in the original libretto, 12 are in the rescued score. What gives the work its modernity, said Federico Sardelli, who conducted his Florence-based ensemble Modo Antiquo in a concert version of the work on Saturday, is that three recitatives are accompanied by the orchestra and that, unusually for the period, a trio provides the climax of Act II.

"The arias are also immensely difficult," Mr. Sardelli said, none more than the dizzying coloratura of Mitrena's aria closing Act I, which Vivaldi is said to have written for his protégée Anna Giró and which was performed with panache on Saturday by the Canadian alto Marie-Nicole Lemieux. "Mitrena is without doubt one of the most impressive female characters in any Vivaldi opera," Mr. Vlaardingerbroek noted.

One final novelty was that Vivaldi wrote two roles for soprano castratos, though in the past he had preferred alto castratos. But in this concert version, the only male voice was that of Motezuma (Sergio Foresti). Women sang Cortés, here called Fernando (Emanuela Galli), his general Asprano (Dominique Labelle) and Ramiro (Renata Pokupic) as well as Teutile (Jeni Bern). The opera has no chorus.

The full house at the 2,300-seat concert hall here Saturday reflected curiosity about what was termed "a modern-day world premiere," but it may also be a sign of new interest in the operas of Vivaldi, who is still best known for his "Four Seasons" and other instrumental works. Experts believe that Vivaldi exaggerated when he claimed to have written 94 operas, but some 50 librettos survive along with 16 full and 4 partial scores.

Now, at least for this year, "Motezuma" will join "Orlando Furioso," "Farnace" and "L'Olimpiade" among Vivaldi operas that are occasionally performed. Mr. Sardelli will conduct a full stage production of the work - with a different cast - at the Barga Opera Festival in Italy on July 16 and 17 and again at the Altstadtherbst in Düsseldorf, Germany, on Sept. 22 through 25. He will also present a concert version at the Baroque music festival at Ambronay, France, on Oct. 1.