Prostitution and Communism

[Ned]

How does prostitution work under 1) idealized communism; and 2) real communism?

Under ideal communism, all women should make love for "free." Marriage is obsolete. There should be no need for prostitution. But, assuming there was still a demand, the women would have to work for the "community" and be paid the same as any other women's work. Now, would any women actually do this if they were paid the same?

Also, let's assume that some women actually worked "on the side" and kept the money. Would this be prosecuted as an economic crime?

Under real communism, I assume that prostitutes were/are tolerated as most small businesses were/are tolerated. But the average prostitute would be able to make a lot more money than the average doctor as doctor's wages were/are controlled. So why would a woman want to be a doctor and not a prostitute under real communism?

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

Re: Prostitution and Communism

Originally posted by Ned
How does prostitution work under 1) idealized communism; and 2) real communism?

They get ****ed up the arse, just like everybody else.

[Whaleboy]

FFS, what's this obsession with the sex industry?

And Ned's assuming it's all about economics. Would you rather be a labourer or a manager, assuming both are paid the same?

[Harovan]

Originally posted by Ned
Under ideal communism, all women should make love for "free." Marriage is obsolete. There should be no need for prostitution. But, assuming there was still a demand, the women would have to work for the "community" and be paid the same as any other women's work. Now, would any women actually do this if they were paid the same?

This is pretty much nonsense, just like the often used statement under communism all goods are common property, including women. Women are not goods.

Under ideal communism, due to the lack of a monetary equivalent and the rule "to each by his needs" there would be no reason for a woman to sell her body. For what, since ideally everyone can have every good. Yes, she would give sex only for free. However not to everyone who wants it, but to those she decides, i.e. is in love with.

Also, let's assume that some women actually worked "on the side" and kept the money. Would this be prosecuted as an economic crime?

What money?

Under real communism, I assume that prostitutes were/are tolerated as most small businesses were/are tolerated. But the average prostitute would be able to make a lot more money than the average doctor as doctor's wages were/are controlled.

Here you are right. I lived under real communism (even tho we called it socialism) and this is pretty much how it was.

So why would a woman want to be a doctor and not a prostitute under real communism?

Well... there is a thing like self-esteem even under communism, believe it or not. Not every woman would cross that line easily. Some would, the majority would not.

Under capitalism prostitutes also earn more money than a lot of other professions. So why would under capitalism a woman be a house cleaner, a simple secretary or even unemployed if she can make much more spreading her legs?

[Flubber]

Originally posted by Sir Ralph




What money?

Well things of value to her. Even without currency, people will have things that other people want and barter can occurr

[JohnT]

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Under real communism, I assume that prostitutes were/are tolerated as most small businesses were/are tolerated. But the average prostitute would be able to make a lot more money than the average doctor as doctor's wages were/are controlled.

Here you are right. I lived under real communism (even tho we called it socialism) and this is pretty much how it was.

You know, when you can admit this as an actual consequence of the implementation of your beliefs, it might be time to go back to the drawing board in re: to your ideology.

[Flubber]

Originally posted by Whaleboy


And Ned's assuming it's all about economics. Would you rather be a labourer or a manager, assuming both are paid the same?

Depends on type of labour. Actually if everything paid the same I would seek to change jobs frequently. Why bother building skills or expertise in a certain area. A factory or a logger job could be interesting for a while and then I would move on.

More generally, I probably would prefer to be the labourer unless the manager was free to go home after their shift regardless of how F***ed up things were.

[Whaleboy]

But you see my point?

[Harovan]

Originally posted by JohnT
You know, when you can admit this as an actual consequence of the implementation of your beliefs, it might be time to go back to the drawing board in re: to your ideology.

This has nothing to do with my belief, I just state how it was.

I have seen them standing near one of the smaller hotels ("famous" for this kind of business), especially around the time of the Leipzig fair. I had nothing to do with prostitutes and even if I wanted them, I could not afford their services, since they were mainly available for capitalist currency only, i.e. for people like you.

[JohnT]

All right, make that the rhetorical "you."

[Kidlicious]

Re: Prostitution and Communism

Originally posted by Ned
How does prostitution work under 1) idealized communism; and 2) real communism?

1/10

[Lancer]

Under communism the 'madam' is refered to as 'madam commisar'.

That's it.

[JohnT]

Or "Comrade Madame."

[Lancer]

Any specials today comrade madame?

Hmm, doesn't roll off the toung...finger.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Flubber
Depends on type of labour. Actually if everything paid the same I would seek to change jobs frequently. Why bother building skills or expertise in a certain area. A factory or a logger job could be interesting for a while and then I would move on.

That's one of the points of communism, the ability to develop yourself more fully and experience the variety that life has to offer, instead of focusing on being a CPA.