Family Research Council president and the KKK

[Dr Strangelove]

Originally posted by Whaleboy
Christians and conservatives were the enemies of every example of moral progress in the last 1000 years. Consider something that you feel good about... freeing the slaves, equal treatment of Jews, women, atheists, etc, and the Church opposed it at the time.

Actually in the early nineteenth century abolitionism and women's rights were an integral part of the evangelical movement in both the US and England. The hymn "New Jerusalem" a favorite of nineteenth century English evangelicals, strongly proclaims a socialist agenda.

[Shi Huangdi]

Originally posted by MrFun





There were a multitude of white Catholic priests and white Protestant ministers in the 1950s and 60s who joined the noble cause of the Civil Rights movement.

So you were saying?

Indeed, the Bishop of New Orleans even denied communion to pro-segregation Catholic politicians.

[Dr Strangelove]

Originally posted by Moral Hazard

Whoa, whoa, whoa. Although some churches were pro-slavery, some were anti-. Read "Uncle Tom's Cabin" if you want to see a different Christian view of slavery.

And John Paul II was a great supporter of the Jews.

Not to mention that many of the civil rights leaders in the US were ministers and definitely used the bible as basis for their beliefs.

Oh and conservative is really a modern concept. It isn't really honest to force historical movements into a modern lense.

No, I think that conservatism as a concept goes way back in one form or another. In eighteenth century Engalnd "Tories" were the conservative party of the King, "whigs" were their opposition. In France even before the revolution the "right" favored the status quo and the "left" favored reform.

[Jaguar]

Re: Re: Re: Family Research Council president and the KKK

Originally posted by Boris Godunov


I knew this would bring you out with such a thoughtless comparison.

It's not even the same thing:

Perkins is the head of a religious organization that is all about preaching moral values. Perkins not only had his links with the KKK recently (1996 as opposed to the 1940s), he lied about his links with them.

Byrd hasn't lied about his KKK involvement--and has, in fact, apologized for it--and he wasn't giving their members money recently. On top of that, Byrd isn't acting as a representative of moral, Christian values--he's a senator.

It's an issue of hypocrisy--Perkins' hyposcrisy. Try some critical thinking next time.

You would know about hypocrisy.

[Kuciwalker]

Boris, I'd say you're an example of a straight *** except you actually are gay

[Boris Godunov]

Yada yada yada. Still not relevant to the point.

Stupid crackers.

[Kuciwalker]

You are, however, a white ******.