Gov. Perry of Texas to gay veterans: Don't come home.

[MrFun]

I would think that most metropolitan cities in the South are liberal compared to the rest of their respective state.




EDIT: I'm really, really getting tired of cross posting

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat
They most likely have a considerable degree more shootin' hardware and an even more considerable degree of proficiency in the use thereof than do libruls and other such sorts. Not to mention a disproportionately higher representation in military service.

Assuming a Souther secession (yes, ) do you really think even the majority of Southerners in the military would side with the South?

Of course, the scenario is so absurd as to defy prediction...

[Last Conformist]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker
Of course, the scenario is so absurd as to defy prediction...

QFT!

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by MrFun


The premise that one should not have a different set of laws for a minority group compared to the rest of society.

You don't have different laws. You have one set of laws that say that mentally competent, adult (or near adult with parental consent), unmarried males can marry mentally competent, adult (or near adult with parental consent), unmarried females.

The premise that just as prohibition against interracial marriage degraded the dignity of a human person, so does prohibition against gays marrying one another.

Nobody gave a flying **** at a rolling doughnut about the "dignity" of miscegenators any more than they gave a flying **** at a rolling doughnut about illicit cohabitators. States simply recognized that law enforcement priorities had moved on and eventually that these laws were silly and inane.

And there sure as hell was no "thou shalt not" biblical prohibition about marrying someone with lighter or darker skin tone than there was about fornicatin', let alone about "man lying with man as with a woman" to influence the Gawd-fearin' folks who aren't ready any time in the next millennium to go beyond decriminalizing sodomy in the privacy of two consenting adult's homes.

The premise that anti-gay amendments are a danger to heterosexuals and the rest of society in that anti-gay amendments violate the sepration of the church and state.

Not in a million years. They'll cite the state interest in promoting marriage and procreation and creating little workers and taxpayers, blah blah blah.

We can increase our political base of support beginning with these premises, along with other significant ones, I'm sure.

If anything, you're in backlash mode now, and a few states even talking about legalizing gay marriage or civil unions has led far more states to strengthen legal bans on it, and more (adoption in Florida, custody rights, etc.)

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker


Assuming a Souther secession (yes, ) do you really think even the majority of Southerners in the military would side with the South?

Of course, the scenario is so absurd as to defy prediction...

I was responding to the suggestion of the desirability of eliminating a few million bible belters.

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia


riiiiight. thats why they beat us the last time around in the 60s right? (1860s that is) and you would have to deal with the black and minority southerns in your back yard who wouldnt mind taking some revenge on da masta for over a century of repression.

Uh, dood. Look at a map. A good chunk of the bible belt goes right up the middle of the US, not just dixie. Also look at the post I quoted - that's a hint as to what I was responding to, and I didn't see a hint of the word "southerners" in it.

[Lawrence of Arabia]

[bad joke]

well, they'll all go to heaven, so what do they care? [/bad joke]

[Last Conformist]

Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat


I was responding to the suggestion of the desirability of eliminating a few million bible belters.

Odd then, that you spoke of feasibility, not desirablity.

[Lawrence of Arabia]

Uh, dood. Look at a map. A good chunk of the bible belt goes right up the middle of the US, not just dixie. Also look at the post I quoted - that's a hint as to what I was responding to, and I didn't see a hint of the word "southerners" in it.

im wary of anyone who speaks english with an accent. such as librul hatin suderners and gawd fearin bible thumpers (humpers??)

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by Last Conformist

Odd then, that you spoke of feasibility, not desirablity.

If one desires the infeasible, what's the point? I'm interested in executable objectives, not wish lists for Santa.

[mrmitchell]

The South is too disparate to secede now. We can't form a solid block of agreement like we did in 1860.

[DinoDoc]

The South rose and took over.

Originally posted by mrmitchell
The South is too disparate to secede now.

We run the country. Why would we leave?

[Lawrence of Arabia]

they suck resources off the country. why would they leave?

[DinoDoc]

You had your chance to avoid this fate but refused.

[Last Conformist]

Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat


If one desires the infeasible, what's the point? I'm interested in executable objectives, not wish lists for Santa.

And what you are interested in is relevant how?