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    Yesterday a little known state government board refused to allow state funds for building a football stadium on the most densely populated island in the United States.

    Seems like the NYC Olympic bid, thanks to stupid decisions by Mayor Bloomberg, is in danger (Paris was always the front runner).

    Lets see if the NY Jets can raise 2.2 Billion dollars to build it purely with private funds...

    for once, a short piece from a non-Murdoch NYC tabloid:


    'We have let down America'

    Mike: N.Y. lost quest for Oly grail

    BY MICHAEL SAUL
    DAILY NEWS CITY HALL BUREAU

    Declaring "We have let down America," Mayor Bloomberg left little hope yesterday that New York's crippled bid for the 2012 Olympics would survive - even as Olympics backers struggled to keep the dream alive.

    "Other American cities wanted to have the privilege of competing at the world level," Bloomberg said. "New York won because people had confidence that New York would be able to do things, and it turned out that we, unfortunately, are not able to do things."

    On Monday, the Public Authorities Control Board - an obscure panel controlled by Gov. Pataki, Assembly Speaker Sheldon Silver and Senate Majority Leader Joe Bruno - rejected the proposed $1.9 billion West Side stadium, a focal point in the city's Olympic bid and the proposed new home for the Jets.

    Officials with NYC2012, the city's bid committee, spent the day exploring how the Olympic bid could be salvaged - trying to avoid the humiliating prospect of withdrawing the bid.

    "We are reviewing the situation, consulting our key participants, including the [U.S. Olympic Committee] and hearing from many - especially the Olympians, who are shocked and outraged by the actions of Albany's legislative leaders," Jay Kriegel, the bid's executive director, said.

    Four gold medalists - Bob Beamon, Donna de Varona, Jeff Blatnick and Diane Dixon - called on Albany to "reverse their disastrous decision that is crippling our Olympic dream."

    "We cannot understand how local politics are killing America's Olympic bid," the Olympians said in a statement.

    Three sources said the Jets are contemplating a move that would bypass the state panel. Under this scenario, the Jets would forgo $300 million in state funding, eliminate a costly movable roof from the project's plan and seek a zoning change for the West Side property from the City Council.

    Pursuing such a zoning change could take up to a year - and that's not something Bloomberg is considering, a City Hall aide said.

    Bloomberg said yesterday he is deeply committed to lower Manhattan but doesn't believe the city has to give up on redeveloping the West Side.

    "I'm sorry for those who think lower Manhattan is the only thing. It is a very important thing, but it's not the only thing," Bloomberg said.

    Silver countered, "If he really cared about it we wouldn't be four years since Sept. 11 and have nothing."

    Silver added that he would not agree to a compromise deal that would give the West Side stadium approval on the condition that the city wins the Games.

    "How can I now say but if we get the Olympics, forget about our commitment to downtown, forget about our commitment to the thousands of people who died at Ground Zero," Silver told the Daily News.

    "Tell the mayor I'm still sticking to what I said yesterday. It hasn't changed today, and it's not going to change next week," he said.

    If New York loses the Games, Bloomberg should blame himself, charged Manhattan Borough President Virginia Fields, a mayoral hopeful.

    "If anyone is at fault it is Mayor Michael Bloomberg and Deputy Mayor Dan Doctoroff because of the refusal to listen and to work with the community, civic, district and elected leaders in this borough and this city," she said.


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  • #2
    I don't have any problem with NYC not funding the stadium, but why take up the bid without a slam dunk case for a needed stadium, when there were a lot of other jurisdictions -- Washington/Baltimore being one -- that wanted to bid?

    Note that I don't think W/B would have stood a chance at this time, but...
    I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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    • #3
      Good! Of course, the Jets will probably get it from another state, because governments like giving away tax payer money to the rich.
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      • #4
        Americans let down?



        I couldn't care less if New York gets the Olympics.

        ACK!
        Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust!

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        • #5
          Originally posted by DanS
          I don't have any problem with NYC not funding the stadium, but why take up the bid without a slam dunk case for a needed stadium, when there were a lot of other jurisdictions -- Washington/Baltimore being one -- that wanted to bid?

          Note that I don't think W/B would have stood a chance at this time, but...
          Blame Bloomberg.

          He linked a stadium on Manhattan as the only site for it, while many people urged to consider stadiums in the outer boroughs for the Olympics.

          Oh well.
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          • #6
            It's unfair that we won't be getting the Olympics.

            I mean, we've only had Salt Lake City and Atlanta...and St. Louis, and Squaw County, CA...and Los Angeles twice... and Lake Placid...twice
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            • #7
              The only recourse should be that the Jets and Giants should change their names to the New Jersey Jets and New Jersey Giants since they get no love from NYC
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              • #8
                Go ahead. Of course, they make a lot of money from the NYC market, so if they want to hurt their own bottom dollar, go ahead.

                I would not support 600 Million + in public subsidies for any stadium project, not for the Yankees, not for the Mets, not for anyone.
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                • #9
                  Well a vast majority of the Giants and Jets fanbase is in New Jersey. They would STILL be a part of the NY media market (there are no closer NFL teams). They wouldn't be losing any money if they decided to change their name.

                  Hell, the Giants have never asked for a stadium in NY since they left for the Meadowlands.
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                  • #10
                    First Hiedi, now this.
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                    • #11
                      Gang Green will get their vengeance

                      Who am I kidding? Chad Pennington can barely throw the ball twenty yards, let alone take on the faceless bureaucracy.
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                      • #12
                        Maybe if the Jets can ever beat New England, the public might change their mind.
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                        • #13
                          That harks back to the "Chad can't throw further than twenty yards" problem
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                          • #14
                            Well that not throwing further than 20 yards got them to the second round of the playoffs . And they would have won if they had a halfway decent kicker.
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                            • #15
                              Brien is a veteran kicker who had a bad game. Not that I will ever forgive him for missing those field goals, nor will I miss him now that he's in Mike Tice's car wreck, but I have no illusions that the Jets would have beat the Pats in the AFC Championship anyway. And that would have been far more heartbeaking.
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