The Israeli "peace process" is over and the Palestinians are SOLEY to blame

[chequita guevara]

Now that we've got that out of the way.

[Last Conformist]

Maybe we can convince both sides to have the conflict decided by a 'Poly flamewar.

[chequita guevara]

I'd rather just let them kill each other.

[Az]

If that's what it takes....

[chequita guevara]

It's either that or a flame war.

[Last Conformist]

Good to see che's got his priorities right.

[Edan]

Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia
its all that damn roadmaps fault - how can you expect a group of people who got lost in the desert for 40 years and another group of people who are too poor to drive cars to be able to read a roadmap?

[DeathByTheSword]

abolish religion...

and they attack us so we can take all the land we want works very well in CIV but in the real world is it kind of pathatic

[Vesayen]

Originally posted by Agathon

I'm sorry, but being as though Israel took the land in a war that was started by the other side, and has in it the holiest place in Judaism, I think it's rightfully our land.

It's statements like this that neo-nazis use to prove the essential perfidy of all Jews. I'm astonished that you would wish to lend credence to their racist claims.

And the land was illegitimately colonized by Jews without the consent of the people living there. Of course, official Israeli history tends to try to cover this up, but the truth isn't hard to find.

*THEY* attacked.... get ready for it.... are you ready-okay? Be ready..... *US*. We took the land in a war where we were not the aggresor, it is ours.

It's generally recognized as a matter of international law that any land taken by conquest, whether by an aggressor or no, is not the legitimate property of the conqueror.

If that is the same international law that put Syria on the security council a year and a half ago, screw international law.



Also before you go around calling anyone a nazi you *explitive* we are talking about taking eastern Jerusalem/the western wall which was taken when the other side attacked us....

[chequita guevara]

Veyasen, when did you move to Israel? When did Egypt and Jordan attack the United States (or for that matter, Israel)?

[Vesayen]

Originally posted by DRoseDARs


...round and round...



"Mommy! Abdul's touching me again!"
"Yehudit started it!"
"I don't care who started it. Both of you knock it off or I'll give you something to cry about..."

If ever there was a case for abortion, the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is it. [/troll]

East Jerusalem belonged to JORDAN-we took it when Palestinians attacked us. Last I checked Palestinians are NOT Jordanians... except when they want to be! Palestinians have no claim to east Jersualem, Jordan might, but not them.

Originally posted by chegitz guevara


Really? When did Egyptian tanks cross the border? When did Egyptian planes bomb Israeli airbases?

BTW, last I check, Veyasen, you're an American, not an Israeli. What's this "US" stuff?

They had no choice in the case of egypt, an attack was coming. Would you support leveling north korea if we KNEW tommorow by non partisan reliable intelligence that they were going to start throwing medium range missles into Acnorage Alaska?

If the U.S. was attacked by a foreign power and we had intelligence that they were going to but we did not hit them first, how would you feel after a few thousand civilians died?


Americans, actually the ENTIRE INDUSTRIALIZED WORLD live by a standard that one life of their countryman is worth between 3 to 40 lives of people in third world countries(depending on how many sneakers they can make for you per hour.) I actually hate that standard which is why I only buy clothes made in the industrialized world however every country sets the value of the lives of their citizens higher then that of foreigners.

"US" is I am a Jew and though I am not Israeli, I feel complete solidarity with them. US is I am an American and they are one of our only true allies left in the entire world, a country whose population supports us and whose goverment supports us and whose friendship is not just for convenience or financial circumstance.

[dannubis]

so, let's see

after 50 years of civil strife a bunch of hardlines desides to celebrate their victory by organizing a march towards the holy places of the losing side. and they expect everything to go smoothly ?

it was a stupid act of the palestinians, but it was caused by a clear provocation.

"see what kind of animals they really are ? see ?"

stop insulting our/my intellect and go play with your tin soldiers.

[Az]

Vesayen isn't worse than most mexicans in that way.

[Ming]

Originally posted by Vesayen
Also before you go around calling anyone a nazi you *explitive* we are talking about taking eastern Jerusalem/the western wall which was taken when the other side attacked us....

AGAIN... HEY!

What part of my earlier warning didn't you understand.

If you want to discuss the topic in a civil fashion. FINE!

Personal insults or mini flame wars will not be tolerated.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Vesayen
They had no choice in the case of egypt, an attack was coming.

Really? Where's your evidence?

Would you support leveling north korea if we KNEW tommorow by non partisan reliable intelligence that they were going to start throwing medium range missles into Acnorage Alaska?

No, because I don't trust my government not to lie to me in order to support its own objectives, and therefore could not trust any intelligence they provide.

If the U.S. was attacked by a foreign power and we had intelligence that they were going to but we did not hit them first, how would you feel after a few thousand civilians died?

You seem to ignore the alternate possiblities, like defeating the attack. The U.S. is more than capable of defeating an attack on its borders without resorting to a war of conquest. As can be seen in all the wars Israel has fought, it was as well.

"US" is I am a Jew and though I am not Israeli,

How many American Jews have been attacked by Egypt and Jordan?

I feel complete solidarity with them.

What about with the Israelis who say you are completely wrong on the facts?