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  • #16
    Sales taxes, like all regressive taxes, are crap.
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    • #17
      Sales taxes

      I'm glad montana doesn't have this crap.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Ramo
        Sales taxes, like all regressive taxes, are crap.
        It's even more regressive if the internet is exempt, since it's harder for poor people to make online purchases.
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        • #19
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          • #20
            Originally posted by chegitz guevara
            What is?
            Who pays the tax.

            Nominally the sales tax is paid by the purchaser. You don't purchase something you don't pay the tax logic. Administratively the vendor only collects the tax and pays the liablity. That ignore however that the vendor takes a hit to make the post tax price bearable to the customer, as per the elasiticity of demand.
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            • #21
              Originally posted by The Emperor Fabulous


              But I'm not talking about selling. I'm talking about a sales tax, where I would be taxed for buying a used dildo, which has already been taxed when it was bought previously.
              I would assume that you (or rather the vendor) would only pay Capital Gains Tax if its not a trade sale. Or maybe pay service charges....
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              • #22
                Originally posted by Dauphin
                Who pays the tax.
                Prices tend to be the same in non-sales tax states as in sales-tax states, at least as far as national chains are concerned.
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                • #23


                  It's even more regressive if the internet is exempt, since it's harder for poor people to make online purchases.


                  Fair point, but net sales taxes are still more regressive than income, corporate, estate, etc. taxes.
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by chegitz guevara


                    Prices tend to be the same in non-sales tax states as in sales-tax states, at least as far as national chains are concerned.
                    I find that interesting. Sales prices here aren't the same despite a standard national tax. Cost of living effects means that its sometimes a lot cheaper to buy out of town than in town, even at national chains.
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by The Emperor Fabulous


                      Does this mean eBay would be taxed? I don't pay a tax at a garage sale.
                      There are two taxation issues - sales and use taxes, and income taxes.

                      Other than certain large personal property, such as boats, automobiles, aircraft, etc., sale of used personal property from one private party to another does not trigger sales tax in at least the vast majority of states with sales taxes.

                      If you're an eBay or similar business, routinely engaged in the business of selling such items, then it's a taxable transaction.

                      If you're a hobbyist who routinely sells something you make, that is also generally subject to sales tax.

                      The difference is whether you buy something for personal use, use it for a while, then sell it, on a non-routine basis, compared to buying something for the purpose of later resale.

                      That covers the sales and use tax issue.

                      Income tax implements in different ways, and has different taxpayers (seller as opposed to buyer) but the underlying logic is similar with sales tax, in determining whether the sale is incidental, or a transaction within a business or hobby context. Generally, when you sell used stuff, you sell it for less than you paid, so there's no income to tax, even if the sale was taxable. In a business transaction, you try to sell for more than you pay, and you have a significant number of sales.

                      Income from items sold may not be taxable income, or they may be taxed as ordinary income or capital gains, depending on how long you've had the item and if it was bought for eventual resale.
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by The Emperor Fabulous


                        But I'm not talking about selling. I'm talking about a sales tax, where I would be taxed for buying a used dildo, which has already been taxed when it was bought previously.
                        So? It's a different transaction. It doesn't matter if the underlying product has been sold and resold a zillion times.
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by chegitz guevara
                          Prices tend to be the same in non-sales tax states as in sales-tax states, at least as far as national chains are concerned.
                          The initial price, yes, but not with the 6% or 7% added to your bill because of state sales tax. Look at your reciepts, for retailers it'll be there.
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                          • #28
                            May I be the first to tell these 43 states to go fornicate with themselves?

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                            • #29
                              Nevada of course is on it.

                              We don't have income tax, sales tax is what generates a lot of tax revenue.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by The Emperor Fabulous


                                But I'm not talking about selling. I'm talking about a sales tax, where I would be taxed for buying a used dildo, which has already been taxed when it was bought previously.
                                ewww, who would buy a used dildo?

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