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  • #31
    Originally posted by Ted Striker
    The entire nation demanded a response.
    They got one. I still fail to see any reason that your assertion that depth of emotion should be able to speed up the search for a person in an area of the world easy to hide in bears any weight.
    I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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    • #32
      I noticed none of you Reactionaries had showed up the other day in the OTHER Guantamo thread. I guess nothing bad is going on there. They probably just located it on foreign soil for no reason at all:

      One of those inquiries, the findings of which are expected to be issued soon by Air Force Lieut. General Randall Schmidt, was spurred by eyewitness accounts from FBI agents at Gitmo from mid-2002 to mid-2004. According to just-released memos, agents reported seeing captives shackled in a fetal position for 24 hours without food or water and left in their own excrement, another gagged with duct tape that covered much of his head and another who had torn out his hair after being chained all night in a hot room. Former Army Sergeant Erik Saar, who served at Gitmo and wrote Inside the Wire with TIME correspondent Viveca Novak, has described an instance in which a female interrogator smeared fake menstrual blood on a captive's face. It may have been a measure of how detainees are treated that when Army Specialist Sean Baker played the role of an inmate in a 2003 training exercise, he says he was beaten so badly by MPs, who did not know he was one of them, he now has seizures. The Army is investigating the incident, and Baker has filed suit against the government, seeking damages for his injuries.

      The value of holding the detainees for information:


      Still, earlier this year the civilian head of intelligence at Guantanamo admitted in newspaper interviews that the majority of detainees were no longer of much intelligence value and were not even being regularly interrogated.
      We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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      • #33
        Originally posted by DinoDoc
        They got one. I still fail to see any reason that your assertion that depth of emotion should be able to speed up the search for a person in an area of the world easy to hide in bears any weight.
        It's called resources, not emotions.

        All those resources bogged down in Iraq could have been used to find the guy. Instead they were wasted on a silly side war based on a lie.
        We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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        • #34
          Why would I discuss two year old news? Am I supposed to do it out of pity for you or something?
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          • #35
            The news came out this week.

            Thanks
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            • #36
              I still fail to see any reason that your assertion ... bears any weight.
              I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
              For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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              • #37
                The part you highlighted about Sean Baker is hella old, dude. Get with the ****ing program...
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                • #38
                  So what? It's just one piece of ongoing pattern. Duh. The memos were released this week of other abuses.

                  Your apathy towards the situation is charming though.
                  We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by DinoDoc
                    I still fail to see any reason that your assertion ... bears any weight.
                    Go on.
                    We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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                    • #40
                      Why are we discussing Gitmo?
                      I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                      For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                      • #41
                        If you have to ask the question...
                        We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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                        • #42
                          ... then you obviously haven't noticed that Gitmo is all Ted can talk about anymore.
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                          • #43
                            Your Reactionary boy DanS was actually the first to make a reference to it.

                            Thanks.
                            We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Ted Striker


                              Go on.
                              If you want to give credence to your assertion that OBL should have been been caught sooner you'd have to actually bother to provide a credible reason why. But that would require some work and maybe a little reasoning.
                              I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                              For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                              • #45
                                ... then you obviously haven't noticed that Gitmo is all Ted can talk about anymore.
                                That's not true at all. He can talk about Abu Ghraib too. I've seen him do it!
                                I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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