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  • #16
    Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat
    As opposed to cane cutters or banana pickers.
    I'd rather be picking banana's than be some fat american's *****.
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    • #17
      American's like Banana's

      thanks beiach!
      Monkey!!!

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      • #18
        Yes, sanctions should be lifted and relations normalized.

        No, they won't be. The Cuban exiles don't want it. Ticking off that voting block means loosing Florida. And if you're running for Prez, you really, really want Florida.

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        • #19
          No and we need to unnormalize relations with those other countries.

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          • #20
            No, they won't be. The Cuban exiles don't want it. Ticking off that voting block means loosing Florida. And if you're running for Prez, you really, really want Florida.
            I'm tired of hearing about Florida. You do not need to win Florida to become President. In 2008 I will vote for the President-candidate that most fervently campaigns for nuking that hellhole away.

            (After, of course, airlifting Che and Bunnygrll to somewhere civilized.)
            meet the new boss, same as the old boss

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            • #21
              Re: Should the U.S. normalize relations with Cuba

              Originally posted by Pax
              Don't you think it's time to bury the hatchet?
              Yes. In his head.
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              • #22
                sure why not.
                In da butt.
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                • #23
                  How about we drop the sanctions when Castro gives us back the American property he nationalized?
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                  • #24
                    When Castro came to power, Americans were heart-broken that their elitist playground was taken away from them.
                    A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Shi Huangdi
                      How about we drop the sanctions when Castro gives us back the American property he nationalized?
                      How about those companies refused compensation forty years ago, therefore Cuba owes us nothing. How about we compensate Cuba for the illegal embargo and the terrorism we sponsored against the country?
                      Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                      • #26
                        What illegal embargo? I'm not aware that we are under any real obligation to trade with them.
                        I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                        For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                        • #27
                          Many people have made lucrative careers of pointing out inconsistencies in US foreign policy, and to me the continued embargo on Cuba is only the most glaring inconsistency in US foreign policy. It is descendent of American paternalism in the Caribbean and only engenders the deep-seated disdain for America that many people in the Caribbean, Latin America, and South America feel for this country. The embargo should be lifted and diplomatic relations gradually, if not completely, normalized. It would benefit both countries.

                          As for the argument "Castro is a bastard," spare me. On the scale of bastards, Islam Karimov is the most fatherless of them all. Cynically maintaining power in the name of restraining a dubious threat from what he terms "Islamic fundamentalists," he receives millions in US aid because of bases we have stationed there. Need I point out other inconsistencies in which dictators we do and do not support?
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Zkribbler
                            Yes, sanctions should be lifted and relations normalized.

                            No, they won't be. The Cuban exiles don't want it. Ticking off that voting block means loosing Florida. And if you're running for Prez, you really, really want Florida.
                            Zkrib gets it.



                            We are normalizing with Vietnam, and are now their biggest trading partner. They are still Communist.

                            Many American companies now have major operations in Vietnam.

                            There is abosolutley NO POINT to holding a grudge with Cuba, and, as Zkribbler, said, treatment of Cuba is 100% because of what the exiles in Miami want.

                            Picking on Cuba gets nobody absolutley anything.
                            We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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                            • #29
                              Well, it does serve the interests of the exiles, which is something.
                              I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                              • #30
                                Well, yeah.
                                We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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