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  • #16
    Originally posted by alva

    You do know the wimpy euro(Japaneses) cars are getting more popular in the US because of higher oil prices. You can't stop evolution.
    Trolling is way too easy here.

    I don't have a problem with smaller cars (I drive a small car) I just want some better looking ones. The hybrids are almost all pathetic.
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    • #17
      Urmmmm, no. The limiting factor is the amount of oil. Whatever we do will take oil. Which means that we have to take it from somewhere it is currently being used. That will cause massive problems with the financial markets if they haven't already collapsed, which they probably will have.
      Take it from transportation. Even considering peak oil, production does not fall very quickly. As long as you don't dawdle, you would have plenty of time to make the switch.
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      • #18
        A decline is a decline. In order to produce more you need more resources or you need to divert them. Since we won't have more oil we will need to divert oil use from somewhere else.
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        • #19
          Very boringly traditional, but coal liquefaction becomes profitable at about $35/barrel, and there is still plenty of coal. So if oil prices keep rising or stay at $50 as they are now people will just use coal liquefaction, which should ensure that oil prices never rise much above $50.

          Since that argument seems to hold, I am a bit puzzled about why those people who talk about running out of oil doesn't take it into account.
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          • #20
            Originally posted by DanS
            Take it from transportation.
            I got DanSed.

            What exactly do you mean - control prices or something?
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            • #21
              No, just use less of it in transportation. Plug-in hybrids will reduce use of petroleum-based fuels.
              I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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              • #22
                Not much of a plan DanS. What about the economy? Less transportation obviously means less economic production.
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                • #23
                  This discussion is becoming frustrating. Plug-in hybrids would allow the same or more transportation with a decreasing supply of petroleum.
                  I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                  • #24
                    only if the energy was generated from dirty coal plants instead of oil using plants

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by DanS
                      This discussion is becoming frustrating. Plug-in hybrids would allow the same or more transportation with a decreasing supply of petroleum.
                      Blindly ignore the factor of scarcity then.
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                      • #26
                        Dirty coal.
                        I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Kidicious


                          Blindly ignore the factor of scarcity then.
                          I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                          • #28
                            You've really got the blinders on for economic catastrophes, don't you Kid?
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                            • #29
                              And DanS has now dealt with the phenomenon of Kidicious. I warn you, if you continue, you will have to bang your head against the wall many, many, many more times
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                              • #30
                                I don't know if it will happen or not. I'm just saying what if.
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