Technology Discussion Thread: China censorship of google

[Kuciwalker]

I think they should do that, but put in big letters "becuase of Chinese laws/whatever, we're not allowed to show you the full search results" or something like that.

[Q Classic]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
We're not discussing Korean eating dogs. There's no reason to be defensive because I don't really see anyone defending European censorship.

WTF does the dogs eating have to do with this?

Now, I was only briefly playing devil's advocate here. :shrugs: On the other hand...

censorship of any nature, in my opinion, is a crime. Though the difference between France and Germany's censorship is against something virtually everybody sane recognizes as heinous, I don't think it's all too different from China's thing.

Which is why I don't see why we should castigate just China.

[Shi Huangdi]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker
I think they should do that, but put in big letters "becuase of Chinese laws/whatever, we're not allowed to show you the full search results" or something like that.

Right, we don't want a situation where people to think a censored search result is actually an unfiltered search result. We don't people think that a censored version of the picture actually is the whole picture, which is what we risk here.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Q Cubed
WTF does the dogs eating have to do with this?

I dunno. You tell me why you seem to be drawing conclusions based on something no one has said. It was the only thing I could think of.

[Q Classic]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
I dunno. You tell me why you seem to be drawing conclusions based on something no one has said. It was the only thing I could think of.

didn't know i was drawing conclusions.

'course, part of that's cause i'm imbibing tonight... no school tomorrow!

[DinoDoc]

Perhaps if you'd drink more, your posts would be funny.

[Q Classic]

perhaps part of the problem is i don't use those blasted smileys, and my delivery is inscrutably deadpan.

dd, i think we're shatting all over this thread.

[DRoseDARs]

Oh, the huge manatee

Google censorship

[Skanky Burns]

I am against censorship.

[mrmitchell]

Oh, and since Shi seemed like he wanted to start a serious thread, I have to say my serious opinion:

In the long run, continued censorship will wreck China. A modern society cannot hold together without totally free flow of information.

[DaShi]

Originally posted by Tingkai


Assuming it works well with Chinese characters. I don't know. It might,

You can Google quite easily in Chinese, which is why I have to change it back to English everytime I use it.

What do people think of Google's argument that it is better to create a news search engine site that has some banned material rather than being banned completely?

I think it lacks principles.

Personally, I'd rather have no Google here, than one where I'm doubtful about the results I'm getting.

[aneeshm]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker
All Chinese should take a stand against censorship.

And then die , mowed down by the tanks of insecure , insular , and inward-looking communists . That is what happens in communist dictatorships .

[Frozzy]

Originally posted by DaShi


You can Google quite easily in Chinese, which is why I have to change it back to English everytime I use it.




I think it lacks principles.

Personally, I'd rather have no Google here, than one where I'm doubtful about the results I'm getting.

How is this affecting you? Are your results (in I assume English) being filtered too?

[DaShi]

Maybe. I don't know. That's the insidiousness of it.

[Frozzy]

Well, it is the same country that did this:

China has banned a Swedish-made computer game accused of "distorting history and damaging China's sovereignty," by showing Manchuria, Tibet and Xinjiang as independent nations, state press said on Saturday.

The computer game, Hearts of Iron, made by the Stockholm-based games developer Paradox Entertainment, also showed Taiwan as a part of Japan, Xinhua news agency said, citing a censorship committee under the Ministry of Culture.

"All these severely distort historical facts and violate China's gaming and internet service regulations," the ministry said. "The game should be immediately prohibited."

All websites are banned from releasing the game and copies of the game on CD-ROM will be confiscated. Sellers will be punished, it said.

Internet bars that provide downloads of the game or fail to stop surfers who download, install or play the game, will be fined or even ordered to stop business, it said.

Earlier this year gaming regulators ordered all copies of a Norwegian-made computer game to be pulled off store shelves after alleging it "smeared" China's national image.

Project IGI2: Covert Strike was accused of blackening Beijing and the Chinese army's image by featuring a freelance mercenary stealing intelligence and conducting sabotage in China.

The mercenary fights in the game are across three linked campaigns in the former Soviet Union, Libya and China.

With the popularity of the internet, computer games have become a booming industry in China.

In 2002, computer games pulled in earnings of 910 million yuan ($A153.5 million) according to a report by state-run television station CCTV's website.

Analysts predict growth in the industry will be enormous with rising demand and the improvement of the broadband network and domestic game developers.

China's previous attempts to control burgeoning internet use has been targeted at politically sensitive messages or essays in online discussions forums, websites and emails.

AFP

And they say Japan is guilty of revisionist history