Since it's common knowledge that in here you won't get rich working, only ways is inheriting LOADS of money (damn didn't happen to me, check), the only way is to come up with a killer company. Now, selling in here is out of the question, with the high taxation that business is killed for new small time arrivals if you plan to be domestic. Manufacturing is still OK, there's something to do even though some companies are outsourcing as fast as they can, but manufacturing can be still done. One of the main reasons is there's no hidden costs. IF you do business here, there's no hidden costs. It sounds like a murder when you learn about the costs and taxes and all that, but that's it, that's the money you need to spend in order to make money, there's no surprising 'hey didn't you know this, everyone knwos you gotta pay this..'. So it's fair in a way and I like that. No hidden costs.
But as for me, I want to be rich, so the ULTIMATE goal is to set up a business and flourish. I'll work my way up there, and I need to do some work first as a.. normal worker, to get some basic capital and let the time pass a little to get strong with the business idea first and not go something face first that falls on its ass. Just me I guess.. I'm like that.. I like risk, but only calculated ones. Make the odds work for you, like casino. That's the way I like it.
Anyway, the great idea.. is not so much of an idea about.. it's not a business idea. It's more like how you set up a business. IN here, you can get starting money to set up business. Of course. It's not a lot, and we don't exactly have the capital venturists and investing business so much, but you can get little starter money from the state.
There are all kinds of funds, but the one that would work perfect is the one meant to be when unemployed person comes up with a business plan and becomes self hired. Then, the 'unemployed center' or what ever it's called gives you starting money, so you can live during the setting up and then you guys estimate how long it takes until you supposedly start making money. SO they give you the starting money to help the business, and so that you can live the time you are nto making money yet. Soudn reasonable? Yeah a good idea. Of course you can get the same start up money if you are already employed etc, but this is the easiest way to get it granted. If the business idea is even half decent, you should be able to get it, and you don't need to be a genius. The key being, you'll actually get this, if you have working brains.
Of course, there's no result you need to be delivering. Many businesses fail, so there's no point, besides it would then be something else than starters money, it would be investing with prenup. Doesn't work.
So you gather around 10 people or so, your friends, hopefully in the same field (in my case IT field). You all go, as individuals, to get that starter money. YOu set a name for yourself as self hired one man team. One is for example graphis designer, one is programmer (or more), one is for example security consultant etc.. One can be purely a business consultant. Everyone gets the money. Then you start dealing with each other, and one hires another one, one hires the two of them etc. Get all the money you can from 'hire a person, here's more support for you guys'. Just use it all.
Then when you are finally merged, like you planned to, you get 10 worth of support starter money, you get all the hiring benefits etc. Now you have even some real capital. Then you use that capital to get some essentials, adn because you're a company, you don't need to pay VAT. So you just get all kidns of crap you think you need, don't pay taxes on them. Up to this point, you only needed to fill the registering form for a business that took you 5 minutes and you should be having couple of tens of thousands of euros with no expectations of returns.
Now you can either actually try to do some work fi you feel like it, or just understand the situation that your product is not selling any, so withdraw and enjoy the benefits. It's not like you lose any money.
It's legal too
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sometimes, you gotta love the welfare state..
But as for me, I want to be rich, so the ULTIMATE goal is to set up a business and flourish. I'll work my way up there, and I need to do some work first as a.. normal worker, to get some basic capital and let the time pass a little to get strong with the business idea first and not go something face first that falls on its ass. Just me I guess.. I'm like that.. I like risk, but only calculated ones. Make the odds work for you, like casino. That's the way I like it.
Anyway, the great idea.. is not so much of an idea about.. it's not a business idea. It's more like how you set up a business. IN here, you can get starting money to set up business. Of course. It's not a lot, and we don't exactly have the capital venturists and investing business so much, but you can get little starter money from the state.
There are all kinds of funds, but the one that would work perfect is the one meant to be when unemployed person comes up with a business plan and becomes self hired. Then, the 'unemployed center' or what ever it's called gives you starting money, so you can live during the setting up and then you guys estimate how long it takes until you supposedly start making money. SO they give you the starting money to help the business, and so that you can live the time you are nto making money yet. Soudn reasonable? Yeah a good idea. Of course you can get the same start up money if you are already employed etc, but this is the easiest way to get it granted. If the business idea is even half decent, you should be able to get it, and you don't need to be a genius. The key being, you'll actually get this, if you have working brains.
Of course, there's no result you need to be delivering. Many businesses fail, so there's no point, besides it would then be something else than starters money, it would be investing with prenup. Doesn't work.
So you gather around 10 people or so, your friends, hopefully in the same field (in my case IT field). You all go, as individuals, to get that starter money. YOu set a name for yourself as self hired one man team. One is for example graphis designer, one is programmer (or more), one is for example security consultant etc.. One can be purely a business consultant. Everyone gets the money. Then you start dealing with each other, and one hires another one, one hires the two of them etc. Get all the money you can from 'hire a person, here's more support for you guys'. Just use it all.
Then when you are finally merged, like you planned to, you get 10 worth of support starter money, you get all the hiring benefits etc. Now you have even some real capital. Then you use that capital to get some essentials, adn because you're a company, you don't need to pay VAT. So you just get all kidns of crap you think you need, don't pay taxes on them. Up to this point, you only needed to fill the registering form for a business that took you 5 minutes and you should be having couple of tens of thousands of euros with no expectations of returns.
Now you can either actually try to do some work fi you feel like it, or just understand the situation that your product is not selling any, so withdraw and enjoy the benefits. It's not like you lose any money.
It's legal too
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sometimes, you gotta love the welfare state..
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