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  • #16
    Heh, I took that from a Dane himself.
    It's intresting you say that though, My current team on 'Football Manager 2005' Is FC Midttjylland 1999, I believe it stands for Middle Jutland?

    Cheers
    Matt
    Up The Millers

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    • #17
      You hit it

      and a skål to you.
      With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

      Steven Weinberg

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Agathon
        I want to vote for a person, not a party. I'd like to have an MP represent me, ie. to be in their constituency, so I know who to contact if I want my voice heard in parliament.


        Not everyone wants what you want. You are in the minority: most people vote for parties.
        Yes, but that's still why I personally am for first past the post system. It all depends what you see democracy as supposed to be - if you see it as the will of the people, and the aim is to get as close to a refrendum on every issue as you can while still being feasible, then PR is a great system. If you see it as electing a person to represent you in parliament, and to vote on your behalf, FPTP is a better system.

        I favour the latter, because I strongly dislike the idea of unfettered democracy, everything being down to the ever changing public whim.

        Originally posted by Agathon
        But there is an obvious solution to your gripe: Mixed Member Proportional Representation (what we have in NZ). Half of the seats are chosen the old fashioned way and the other half got to make up the proportions.
        That would address that particular problem yes, but not the ones about wanting a lack of coalitions and stability of government. These would still be issues when PR is introduced - less the closer to FPTP you stay, having a mixed system, but personally I'd still favour our current system. I see the merits of PR, but I don't want everything to reflect the will of the people, I want the most able people chosen to be in control of the country, and there to be some safety measure where the public can express their opinion. Ie. democracy, but with a stable government.
        Smile
        For though he was master of the world, he was not quite sure what to do next
        But he would think of something

        "Hm. I suppose I should get my waffle a santa hat." - Kuciwalker

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        • #19
          I dunno, I'm still a wee bit p1ssed from watching the CL final

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          • #20
            Not to worry, Even with PR Labour woudn't lose anything in Liverpool
            Up The Millers

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Worthingtons
              Not to worry, Even with PR Labour woudn't lose anything in Liverpool
              Very true

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              • #22
                She got mad calfs, and her booty's real neat
                But her tits are sugar, and hips are sweet
                Can't call her fat, she ain't thin neitha'
                But she's got fly curves, I'm gonna need a breatha'

                Aww yeah...you know she's just right
                Aww yeah...breasts are big, ass is tight

                (Proportional Rap)
                "I predict your ignore will rival Ben's" - Ecofarm
                ^ The Poly equivalent of:
                "I hope you can see this 'cause I'm [flipping you off] as hard as I can" - Ignignokt the Mooninite

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                • #23
                  We have PR voting here. When you cast a ballot, you vote for a candidate - actually a list of them, because there are more than one seat per district.
                  (\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
                  (='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
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                  • #24
                    Perhaps the Australian system would be a nice compromise?

                    Basically, we have a bicameral legislature in which the lower (governing) house is filled with representatives of single member constituencies elected by a preferential first past the post system.

                    The Upper House is filled with representatives of multimember constituencies (the states and territories), and are elected by a preferential proportional representation system.

                    That way you would have a two party house of Government, and a multiparty house of review. The problem is that sometimes minorities and independents have too much say in the fate of legislation. Just ask an Aussie about Brian Haradeen...

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