Crazy Eduardo!

[Pekka]

Ok there's a blog about Finland with the Washington post.

http://blogs.washingtonpost.com/finlanddiary/?nav=sc

It has some people commenting on them, and this dude who lived in Cali and now in Finland and moving back to Cali is totally asking to get nuked in the ass. It's clear he thinks he understand us, but never really got to know us, only the skin. His observations are sometimes very accurate, and other times he's just a whiny little *****. Let me dedicate this thread owning Eduardo, the lost little man. And I'm quoting every line of his on his comments about the article Modest Finland, here's to you Eduardo:


"Oh... you know, A finn may say somethng depreciating about himself, but in his or her mind, they are completely confident that they are completely superior to you. Expecially if they have a university degree."

WTF? Eduardo knows everyones mind! Especially if they have Uni degrees? Dude.. wtf?

"But they do have a sort of self-confidence problem whenever it comes to a competition against Swedes. I would say they are more prone to be pesimistic. For example, I know many women whose finnish doctors told them they may have breast cancer, only to be told a few days later that it wasn't breast cancer after all. Finns like to give the worst possibility first."

Sure, this could be accurate.

"I will try to write more, I am married to a Finn and am from Los Angeles myself. I'm going crazy in this country so we'll be returning to Los Angeles this summer."

Good, go back to LA you whiny *****.

"One major factor contributing to happiness in finland is NOT KNOW WHAT IS OUT THERE! You see, finns travel, but few have ever lived outside of the country. They think winter lasts 6 months all over the world. They think 25,000 euros per year is a good salary for a engineer with a masters. And since I am paying between 30 to 50 percent in income taxes, then 20 percent sales taxes plus who knows how many other taxes. I wouldn't call my health care or any welfare benefits FREE."

Don't know what's out there? Hey pedro, we actually DO know what is outside of our country. And the reason not many of us live outside Finland is because, well, doh, there's not many of us to begin with. Did you know there are no millions of people of Luxemburg living outside Luxemburg? I see your paid education went straight to the trash bin. 25k for engineer IN HERE IS normal. IN HERE. Everyone is at least an engineer in here. It's not like that's something special. Engineer is someone who didn't study longer than necessary almost. Then again, you said you were an engineer. So sorry! Stop whining and get educated, be competitive and stop crying because you can't do ****. Health care free... **** it isn't free? It's paid by taxes. I think people DO know that. It seems like you're the only one surprised at this. YOu were expecting Free ****? I see it let you down. Too bad. *tear

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now that was his first short comment. I'll get to the big bugger next. EDUARDO YOU ARE FIN(N)ISHED! Talking crap like you're an expert. You ain't seen nothing yet!

[Space05us]

People are people no matter where you go. There will be arrogant people (like Pekka) and there will be people with low self-esteem (like Eduardo). There will be smart people (like Pekka) and dumb people (like Eduardo). But it has nothing to do with the fact that Pekka is from Finland and Eduardo is from LA. Ok maybe Eduardo is a dumb **** because he lived in LA, but you get my point.

[Pekka]

"Finland does have some of the most liberated women in the world. Here, women even work in construction and road crews with the hot asphalt and even doing the grass cutting in the summer and landscape maintenance of the city. But then again, they may also be Russians on guest worker visas."

Yeah, so? What is wrong with this? You think women shouldn't work on constructions and in road crews? I've seen like few women in my whole life in these jobs, but so what? YOu have a problem with it? And yeah, you can come here to have a summer job as a road worker or construction worker if you live close to us, like many Russians do. Is that so horrible? Maybe you should stop whining and running your little dirty mouth and accept the fact that they have gotten themselves jobs.

"I can't tell the difference between finns and russians when they're dressed in work clothes. Russian women tend to dress up much more than finnish women. Meaning, the Russian women will wear better makeup, nicer clothes and generally show more style. Finnish women like to keep it simple."

So? Tend to dress nicer? WTF are you talking about? Where have you been living in? They dress the same. As for make up, yeah, Finns don't use TOO MUCH MAKE UP like some do. Because they don't have to. Besides, simple is nice. And get this, this dude is married with a Finn, too . Someone is getting ****ed up tonight!

"But please don't make it sound as if Finland is the only country in the world with female leaders. Even Pakistan had a female prime minister. Also India, Latvia (or lithuainia) and a handful of others. Finland was not the first."

Now I called you nothing but a little whiny *****. Yeah we had female prime minister too. We have a woman PRESIDENT. GET IT? IDIOT. So what if there are group of other countries where women can have high positions? Your point is what? Sounds like you're just a jealous little *****!

"It is true, finland is huge, but nobody wants to live in most of it. This past weekend, my friends and I were saying that Finland is becoming a huge park. Compared to the rest of europe, Finland is like one large national park. Everyone is moving to the south, mainly to Helsinki and Espoo."

Actually people are starting to move back from Helsinki etc to country side. Have you even travelled Finland? Do you know how many Finns there are? I bet the next thing you complain is 'the city is so small, it's nothing like we have back in States, or even in Europe'. THIS IS A SMALL COUNTRY, in a way that there's only few people but lots of lands! We can't fill this ****er up! No one wants to live.. wtf are you talking about? You have no idea what you're talking about. Get some finnish friends, or don't they like you? It's possible because you're irritating little **** for brains.

"Most of the land seems to be owned by the forest industry for their paper mills. You would think everyone would have a large house with 4 acres of land surrounding them, but the reality is that most people live in Row houses or in apartment buildings."

that's not how life works. You would think everyone would live exactly in same distance from each other, spreaded out through the country? Where the **** did you graduate, Idiots University? Of course many live in apartments, you just said it yourself that people live in cities mostly. HMMM strange, people living in cities.. hmm very strange indeed, IF YOU ARE A COMPLETE ****!

"That is what makes living in finland difficult, its geography. You have sea to the west, sea to the south, Russia to the east so it might as well be a sea because visas are expensive and too much hassel, and the artic to the north."

Mmm.. why is that exactly difficult then? Oh you can't swim?

"So we really feel like we live on an island very seperated from europe. The long winter nights also drive people mad contributing to the fact that finland has one of the highest suicide rates in the world. Finns have an extremely short memory that helps them survive in this land. They forget bad memories quickly."

This is true though.

"They convince themselves that it is not really so long. The ones that do not succeed in this attempt suicide. Everyone in this country knows someone who has attempted suicide. That is what makes it such a great place to get away to if you just want to forget about the world."

Well why didn't you kill yourself? I'd be happy if you at least tried.

"Finland has been able to clean up their industries by doing something extremely simple. Outsourcing those industries to Russia and eastern europe. The major dirty work that goes into making phones, electronics, forestry products, etc.. those are done in other countries. Finland doesn't even make its own matches anymore."

This guy doesn't know **** from candy. Let this expert speak at your local meeting and see the markets go DOWN. Yeah some industry is outsourced, true. But lots of manufacturing actually is still kept in here. Admit it Edu, you don't know your ****.

"I know that Finland has been ranked as the most competitive economy in the world, but I really find it hard to believe and so does the Helsinginsanomat which can be read in the article "Seven myths about finland"."

You know it's ranked #1 but you don't think it's true really? I'd hate to be your papi. I'd prolly kill myself for the money wasted on your education. Idiot. I KNOW what you're trying to say, but you just don't know **** so you don't know your stuff at all. Amateur.

"Unemployment is really high here. And last I heard, Finland is no longer number one in mobil phones per capita. When your land line costs you 20 euros per month, PLUS per minute charges no matter where you call... there really is no reason to have a land line phone when you can have a mobil phone of which an average bill is 20 or 30 euros per month."

Yeah unemployment is high. True. No longer number one in mobile phones per capita.. so the **** what? It's still pretty high? What the hell are you talking about landlines. What does it have to do with anything anymore?

"People in finland, and the rest of europe for that matter, don't realize that in other parts of the world, as in the states, a land line isn't very expensive and local calls are free."

So? What does this matter? You don't realize you are telling us **** that don't matter?

"Linux may have been a finnish invention, but it was based completely on UNIX which was an american invention."

now this is just getting sad. You remind us the polish dude who got fired from Nokia after getting caught spying for stuff, and then he went on rampage crying like a little girl how everything sucked. Linux is not finnish invention, idiot. Linus Torvalds is finnish but it hardly makes Linux finnish. Based on UNIX, US product woaawoaa? SO the **** WHAT? Your point?

"Something that is amazing about finns is that even though they don't have a lot of money, they will spend most of it on the latest gadets. Most everyone in Finland makes around 20,000 euros per year, people with masters degrees, engineers make a maximum of 4,000 euros per year, and that's after many years of experience."

20,000 a year is about the minimum salary. Granted, many make little moeny though. So what you want to spend it on? You should spend it on condoms.

4000 for engineer? Are you crazy? Engineer ain't ****! Get a real degree man. Just because you are one doesn't make you hottest thing since whatever. Get this into your fat stupid head, this is not a real degree in here anymore, you are not up to standards! It's YOU MAN, YOU! But you're right, folks are making little money comparing to many other places with that experience and degree and position.

"The cost of living in Finland is probably 30 percent higher than in the US. So, if you walk into a finnish house, you will not feel like you have walked into an american house. A lot of their furniture will be hand me downs or they have just cashed in on a inheritence."

True. Lot of furniture hand me downs.. cashed in on a inheritance? Yeah, if you're a student this is normal. For families, well they tend to buy their ****. But since you're hot shot engineer from Cali, I guess you can buy new set of furniture every ****ing year, **** it! I'm an ENGINEER! I CAN BUILD furniture.

"Housing costs are the same in Tampere as they are in southern california."

So? We know Finland is expensive, your point is what? Since we have lower economy, we should be cheap? Hey, jsut because you can't afford **** in here and can't find a job and can't afford anything with your super engineer powers.. means what?

"And like I said before, when I am paying 30 to 50 percent income taxes and 20 percent (VAT) sales taxes, I find it difficult to call my health insurance and welfare benefits "free"."

Yeah you should get a lot of **** for free because you came here and talk ****.

"Finns and many others kick this word "FREE" around a lot. Free education. No, its not free, our taxes are paying for it. Free university, no, our taxes and industry partnerships are paying for it. If they would charge a little, maybe there would be more interesting research programs as in the states."

Yeah I know. But they still know it's paid by the taxes. Why do you think the taxes are so high? For fun? You don't know **** about anything, do you? Research.. we have plenty of reserach. Do you know how small our country is? Is it a wonder we don't have every field covered with research? Maybe we can get two million super engineers like you, so we can start researchins space science for our new project. We can name it after you , EDUARDO, the super engineer!

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continuing soon.

[Pekka]

sorry for foul language, I'll clean it up for the contiuned quoting. And no Space, this has go tnothing to do with the fact that he's from LA. It's coincidence. This is definitely not US bashing thing. I'm just bashing Eduardo the SUPER ENGINEER.

[laurentius]

Its pretty cool blog...They need to experience the sauna though

[Shi Huangdi]

I don't know, I think Eduardo made some pretty devestating points and properly PWNed Pekka. Chalk up yet another loss to Supercitizen.

[DanS]

Several Finnish newspapers have reported on our trip, so we are hoping to get some Finnish readers here, and hope too that they might post comments or corrections of our reports. We welcome comments from everyone.

He has just opened the gates of hell and let all the Finns out...

[Tuberski]

So far we have one Finn whining about what this guy said and one Finn says it's cool.

ACK!

[Pekka]

"But to be nice, Finland's university resources are INCREDIBLE compared to France, Spain or any of the other southern european countries. The exchange students from those countries can't believe their eyes. American students think the labs are a little under equipped but satisfactory."

I doubt your labs were that special, since I have hard time believing you ever went to any good school. Oh and since you're an engineer, wtf Uni did you go to? Engineers don't go to Unis in here, idiot. And PS. if you study for example comp sci, what do you need other than computers with all that comes with them? You need an expresso machine to make you feel comfortable, or how about a nice little toaster you can stick your head in?

"This man, Pekka Himanen, says Finnish society is all inclusive. What a load of c**p. Finnish society is all inclusive of all higher educated finns. Highly educated finns do not mix with lower educated finns. Since they were 14, they divide their society among vocational schooler, high math students and low math students."

Seriously Eduardo, nwo I don't have the slightest clue what you are talking about. We have devided people into hig and low math students?!?!??!?!?!!??!?! WTF?!?!?!? This is the craziest thing I EVER heard. Don't mix up with uneducated.... ok now you're just plain crazy. I have a theory though.. you thought you were the hottest thing with your super powers, and then you told you graduated from Uni of Tool and you can plum, and suddenly they didn't think your space navigation skills weren't perhaps so high as expected from your own self described set of skills? No wonder. No one likes *****es like you..

"But since it is impossible to not pay taxes, all EU citizens and permanent residents have a right to the welfare benefits. But if you're here on a worker visa and paying 50 percent taxes.. you have no right to welfare."

That's right EDUARDO. If you have worker visa, WHY DO YOU NEED the welfare? I thought you were doing super projects with super companies with your super powers? You say high taxes, taxes for everything and now you scream for welfare so you can just chill and cheat on your wife perhaps? Eduardo.. get real..

"The biggest factor behind finnish success has been LUCK and excellent workmanship. They found a niche that was being ignored and they have milked it."

*tear. The biggest factor to you being a loser is because you think you're hot but you're not.

"It was reported that even most unemployed mothers leave their children in day care centers. A fantastic idea here is the 3 year long maternity leave. But I must admit, for the employer, it is very difficult. They have to provide the first 3 months full salary and they have to find a replacement who after some time, will have to be fired because the mommy will come back to work."

Yeah , but then again you like when the pregnant mommies get kicked in the stomach so they don't have to squeeze the baby out so they can work, yes? Why do you think we pay high taxes, IDIOT?

"I have a friend who was working, then became pregnant. When she was nearing her third year of maternity leave, she became pregnant again, and the whole cycle repeats. How long can something like that be funded?"

Yes this happens with EVERY woman. They just pop out those babies like crazy. And if you think someone will fund that, you're out of your mind. If you think employer will actually support that, you're out of your mind. But you wouldn't know that, the practical side from theory, since you never had a real job in here, except few SUPER PROJECTS requiring your special skills?

"My own family, my finnish wife just had our first child, and we are returning to California soon. SO her first year of maternity leave checks will help us a lot in California where I will be working as an engineer making 60,000 dollars per year (5,000/month). But you would be surprised at how easy it is to become accostumed to paying high taxes. That's just life."

So get this straight.. you first do nothing but ***** and whine, and now you say you milk the system? What a strange man you are. I hope the money you get wont' be too dirty for you. I mean, it's finnish money.. yuk! Prolly nazi money.

"Do you know that if you are self employed, the only pension you are entitled to is the one you create for yourself. You'll get nothing from the state."

You cry and ***** about how everything is and state pays, and now you say state doesn't pay and you don't get welfare checks with your workers visa? Yeah I know self employed peopel have it bad. Tell me something new.

"A big part of life in scandinavia is "envy". People here envy successful people. They talk about them behind their backs. Everybody guns for the top dog."

This is true.

"Please don't get me wrong, I'm not saying finland is a horrible place to live, it just isn't for me. The snow service is especially horrible. Slippery sidewalks and roads are simply accepted, so falling is accepted as part of life. I just can't live that way."

EDUARDO have you lived in Finland for how long? Do you realize the task the snow service does? Do you know how snow works and how much snow can .. well snow? I'm sorry if your personal sidewalk wasn't cleaned well enough for you in 6AM in the morning if it started heavily snowing in 5AM. Very sorry. Maybe you should learn how to walk and not go around like a little girlie man jumping around, it's slippery, I knwo you're not used to it but I thought your super brain would function and tell you 'be careful, it is slippery'. IDIOT! This is darwinism.

"When I slipped and broke my leg, there were people around me and nobody helped me get up. I think that Finns have come to depend so much on their welfare system, that they have forgotton how to help anyone themselves. They simply expect the government to take care of it."

Government takes care, it doesn't take care, you pay so much taxes, you don't get welfare, make up your mind EDUARDO. People fall down all the time when it's slippery. Maybe they didn't know you were hurt? Perhaps you should have said 'help me I'm hurt'. Or something. But **** we all know you didn't deserve to be lifted up. You seem like a person who waits everything to happen and never work for it anyway.

"
Okay, now it bothers me how much taxes I pay. Especially when I see the number of drunks and free loaders living it up in Finland."

Yeah you're right on that one dude.. I totally agree.

"Its true though, most finns do not want to be rich. And I don't think most americans want to be rich either. But our definitions of comfortable and independent are very different. Americans with families do not feel comfortable and independant unless they have a house with over 100 sq meters (1000 sq ft), they must own a suv or minivan to comfortably travel with the kids, and everything else varies. Finns can cram their families into a tiny car and live in a 75 sq meter house comfortably and generally feel they are living a great life. And everything in their house will be very simple and gathered over many years of saving up."

75 square meter places, yeah in cities. Maybe I should go to Manhattan and cry 'people in US like to live small'. IDIOT. And yeah I guess we are used to a little less in some things. So? I doubt your super engineer powers will get you anything going on in Cali either. It's not like stupid idiots gets anything going in anywhere. If you can't make it here, you can't make it anywhere else either. Now takes this as a FREE advice: you have to make YOURSELF competitive. YOU have to make things happen.

"If you have ever watched EUROVISION, it is a wonder that this article states that finland produces many great musicians. Finland has repeatedly failed to even qualify for Eurovision over the years."

Yeah I know. But since you base musicians on this, I'd say you don't know **** from candy again.

"The brain washing campaign of the government in Finland has been extremely successful. And Finns are great at supporting their own. They will pay 3 euros for a finnish grown cucumber even though it is next to a 50 cent cucumber from Spain."

That's freedom fries for you baby. Yeah we support our own. So?

"They buy finnish brands no matter how tasteless they are and will only say great things about anything finnish. It is for these reasons that you must be sceptical of all statistics in finland. They do not like to air their dirty laundry as americans do."

*tear. Don't believe the statistics! They buy domestic cucumbers! now I know you didn't get any technical degree. How the hell are you an engineer? Not a good one I bet.

"Finns are desperate for respect and recognition, after having been in the shadows of Sweden and Russia for the past 500 years. Finns like to say that their culture is 1000 years old, but.. they refer to the Sami culture, which is a completely different blood line of shorter, darker people."

No we don't refer to Sami people most of the times. IDIOT.
And our culture IS old.

"They still show re-runs of the 1995 ice hockey world championship where Finland won top prize. How nostalgic can you be?"

No we don't. In world champ games, they show some reruns of the winning goals, yeah. Nostalgic? Sure. Something wrong in it? Hockey is our 'national sport'. We happen to like it. You can't even walk on slippery roads.

"A funny thing about religion. They say there is no relgion in school and that no politician says "God Bless Finland", but the fact is that all holidays in finland are from the Lutheran religion, and it has been reported in the helsinginsanomat that the lutheran church is extremely favored by taxes. Other religions were even called second class religions. But generally, finns are not religious and consider people who go to church to be "strange"."

We have other holidays than lutheran ones. Maybe you should get your head out of your ass. It still doesn't change the fact that no one says god bless finland. But I guess you have to counter it with 'well you have lutheran holidays!'. Hey holiday is a holiday, if you don't like it, you can use your super engineering powers and research something new during it. Other religions second class? WHere have you been hanging out? With neo-nazis?

"Lots of people in finland own hunting guns. I even know of a guy that shot at burglars running away from his house. Hand guns are rare. Which I think is a good thing. That's something I really admire and enjoy in europe. I rather be robbed with a knife than with a gun."

Yeah, so? Your point being what?

"Finns generally do not like or accept immigrants. But they are coming none the less and I predict finland will have a serious civil upheavel in the future as middle europe is currently having with their far right groups."

No, we just don't like *****es like you who think they are hot with their super degrees and wanting 60k for being nothing but **** for brains. I can't believe you even got a worker visa.

That's it, thanks EDUARDO. You made my day.

[laurentius]

I think he is just a little home sick

[Pekka]

edited.

yeah. he's little home sick I guess.

[Tuberski]

ACK!

[laurentius]

just let it out Pekka

[Pekka]

OK.. well, I just don't like it when people like that paint the wrong picture. Because it's dangerous like that. He has some very valid points which echoes the truth. But then he makes half assed job with it and turns it around.

He sounds like a true hater. He got some bad experiences in here. I mean he got a worker visa. That means, he came here expecting to make a nice living with his Finnish wife.

He comes from Cali to what he thinks is a cheap country. Then he finds out, his education is actually very lacking, his skills are not hot at all and that he's not making money close he makes at home. Hey it's not our fault he's a stupid jackass who can't read a book or two and get educated further.

He sounds like a girlie man. 'BUuhuu I fell down it was SOOO slippery and no one lifted me up, no humanity, the welfare state has treated them so much they can't even help the common man anymore! Did you know anyone else but me gets welfare too? This is so wrong!'. What a *****.

Did he came here to work or cry? Seems to me he came here to cry and expecting to be cream of the crop with his super skills making tons of money, and living like a King in third world country, and it turned out to be HE is the bum and the loser and no one likes his stupid ass.

He got what he deserved and he prolly will burn in hell.

[Pekka]

And then he cries all about it's cold and dark and summer is so short and usually crappy at that, and this and that. SO? WE KNEW THAT. At least we're not pussies like you and cry about it after living a year or two. ****,.... we've got decades of this **** EACH in this one. You don't even have the crying privilidges of that one. We are allowed to whine about it, because this is our ****ing life. IT gives us edge, it gives us character. To you it gives nothing but a reason to be a girlie man. REAL MEN SUFFER all the time. They have the right to whine about it, AFTER they have served at least 20 years in it. What time you got served.. few stinking winters? YOu just don't have that privilidge and right. You don't have the character. You don't have the toughness. You just need to have it sunny all day long, all year long, so you don't get depressed. You don't have mental toughness. WE OWN YOU and laugh at you when your balls freeze and you break your girlie bones again and again when it's sooo sooo slipperryyyhh... you don't have **** against us, because you haven't even played the game for real yet. You haven't even faced the threat of getting stabbed because supposedly someone was in the line before you getting his hotdog after night out. You don't have the intensity what it takes to be a real Finnish man. You haven't even considered killing yourself prolly. You don't have character, you don't have edge, you don't have education OR toughness. So ask yourself.. you think you're a winner? No you aren't... you are just average loser, who never makes it. In here you have to be a Rocky story again and again just to keep your mental health. YOu are not Rocky my friend.. you are not even Adrian. Says more about you than it says about us.