What does anyone make of this news article?

[MrFun]

More Unrest in Iraq

[Winston]

This is just me OK, but it looks like there's more unrest in Iraq.

[Space05us]

The report is on Yahoo.

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Winston
This is just me OK, but it looks like there's more unrest in Iraq.

What about the role of the British newspaper in this latest development?



EDIT: And the New York Post?

[Winston]

If you want me to actually click the link and read the article, then I have no comments.

[MrFun]

Thank you for your contribution, Winston.

[C0ckney]

i don't see how the pictures are that bad, they show him sitting on a chair, in his undercrackers, washing his socks.

what's been violated, his right to put on a pair of trousers, or his right to a washing machine

[Winston]

Originally posted by MrFun
Thank you for your contribution, Winston.

I bumped it, thereby saving it from the abyss of page 2, didn't I?

[Spiffor]

I think Saddam's pic is more of an excuse than anything. "OMG, there's a pic showing Saddam in his undies! Let's kill the Yanks!!!11!"

I'm not surprised that the Sun chose to publish the pic, btw.

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by C0ckney
i don't see how the pictures are that bad, they show him sitting on a chair, in his undercrackers, washing his socks.

what's been violated, his right to put on a pair of trousers, or his right to a washing machine

If he has POW status, taking and using his photograph for purposes of humiliation violates the Geneva convention. I would assume he's classified as such, rather than a common criminal, because we don't trust in the reliability of the Iraqi detention system and we want to make sure he's there to be tried, convicted, and located in front of a convenient wall.

[MichaeltheGreat]

Re: What does anyone make of this news article?

Originally posted by MrFun
More Unrest in Iraq

That dropping a grenade or ten in that hole Saddam was hiding in would have been a simpler, better solution, and that we should have seen to it that somebody took out that mother****er al Sadr.

The rest of it is the obvious jockeying by different Shiite and Sunni factions who have no intention of participating as minority groups in a parliamentary democracy

[C0ckney]

mtg, wouldn't that depend on who took the picture and how it got out.

like for example if a freelance photographer took it and then it got used, would this violate his rights. or if someone in the army took it for some innocent purpose, but it got leaked by someone, would this violate his rights.

or would there have to have been someone in the army taking it, and an intention to use it to humiliate him?

[Q Classic]

Why do Iraqis liberals Iraqis hate America?

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by C0ckney
mtg, wouldn't that depend on who took the picture and how it got out.

like for example if a freelance photographer took it and then it got used, would this violate his rights. or if someone in the army took it for some innocent purpose, but it got leaked by someone, would this violate his rights.

or would there have to have been someone in the army taking it, and an intention to use it to humiliate him?

He's in the custody of the US military, so unless there's some huge breach of security, a freelance photographer would have to be given access to him and allowed to take the photographs. That in itself would be a violation, unless there was an objective military reason for taking the photographs, or some other mitigating reason.

There's no real punishment, and no real sanction, so as far as I know, there's no body of law to detail what acts or circumstances clearly cross the line and what dances up to the edge of it.

It seems clear that the photographer was allowed access to Saddam for the purpose of taking those photos, and the results speak for themselves. Not that I'm terribly sympathetic, as I think the SOB should never have come out of his little hole, or should have been promptly dealt with before now. The lack of control of the situation on our end does bother me, though.

[C0ckney]

ah ok, thanks mtg.