FOX says Mexicans in the US do the work blacks don't want.......

[Master Zen]

Originally posted by Ted Striker
Master Zen defends Fox for being politically incorrect by instructing people on how to be politically correct.

You realize that my case was never over the term "black" but rather over the historic context of his statement?

And now you are making a debate out of political correctness regarding the term "Spanish" when I NEVER said it was a politically incorrect term, rather that it's a gramatically incorrect term.

And now you're saying I'm instructing people on being PC when I'm merely giving you gringos a lesson in your own language.

[Ted Striker]

Nah, you tell me it's all about grammar (after you botched up the meaning of "black") but you just burned 3 pages of lengthy, passionate posts trying to explain yourself. You can tell me it's just about grammar all you want, but your actions show otherwise.

You're just as PC as everyone else, you just have a different style of it and are upset people don't follow your preferred model.

[Ted Striker]

It's not my fault BROWN people all speak Spanish.

[Master Zen]

Originally posted by Ted Striker
Nah, you tell me it's all about grammar (after you botched up the meaning of "black") but you just burned 3 pages of lengthy, passionate posts trying to explain yourself. You can tell me it's just about grammar all you want, but your actions show otherwise.

You're just as PC as everyone else, you just have a different style of it and are upset people don't follow your preferred model.

So now it's PC for me to tell people to not call me something I am not? I guess next time I fill a government form I'll write down I'm "Spanish". Let's see where that gets me.

Great job arguing a moot point btw

[Ted Striker]

Originally posted by Master Zen


So now it's PC for me to tell people to not call me something I am not?

Brown Spainard,

And there you have solved the riddle.

Alot of black people don't like you calling them black because they are not black.

The context is irrelevent.

[Caligastia]

Originally posted by Master Zen


The truth finally reveals itself

You are not opposed to illegal migration because of the supposed net cost to the taxpayer nor because of the benefits to corporate America, nor because they supposedly take jobs from others etc etc...

You are opposed because of cultural/ethnic reasons. Go figure

You know, the "smart" anti-immigrationists these days (Samuel Huntington for example), base their argument solely on the cultural issue because they are smart enough to see that there is no argument - economically speaking - against it. And I do not fundamentally disagree with them. The rest of the anti-immigrationists are the self-deluded, ignorant, racist right-wingers who pull crap studies out of their ass to try and fool people into thinking illegal immigration economically hurts the country as a whole.

Your choice on which type of anti-immigrationist you want to be. Backing up a position isn't wrong. It's backing up a position for all the wrong reasons that's stupid.

Blahblahblah....you have yet to back up anything you've said.

[Japher]

What do you get when you cross a Mexican with a black guy?

Someone who's too lazy to steal!

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by Japher
What do you get when you cross a Mexican with a black guy?

Your daddy?

[MrFun]

[Japher]

No you didn't! You take that back before I go all Ricky Lake on you! My daddy is most definitly not too lazy to steal! He's a Republican!

[Joseph]

Originally posted by Master Zen


Hispanic = originating from the Iberian penninsula. This would apply to all people from the Spanish and Portuguese colonies in America.

Latino = Latin American. Technically would include anyone from Spanish, Portuguese and French colonies in America. Nevertheless the geographic term "Latin America" basically includes everything south of the US border.

Spanish = a citizen of Spain

There are of course loopholes in every definition. Would Quebec count as "Latin America" since it is of Latin (French) origin? Gramatically yes, but geographically and historically, no. What about the English and Dutch colonies in the carribean and in south america, are they latin/hispanic too? Take Belize for example, originally a British (non-Latin) colony which is mainly black (non-Latin). What about Brazil which is half european descendant and half african descendant? Or Argentina and Uruguay which are almost entirely european also (both of these are actually "whiter" than the US)?

Despite all these loopholes, for most people its just easy to say that south of the border we're all Hispanic or Latino and I would say it's the closest definition possible. Despite the different languages and the different ethnic mixes, most countries south of the border have a common culture and identity in the broader sense (not in small part due to the influence of catholicism in practically every country here).

Then you need to talk to this student that we had 2 years ago. He was from Costa Rica and he said he was Latino and not Hispanic.

[Dinner]

Originally posted by Joseph
I have been told by the Mexican students that Hispanic is mostly Mexico/Mexican and Latino is mostly Central and South American County.

The other one I've heard is Chicano though this seems to not be used by anyone outside of academia's ivory towers. Apparently a small group of academics believed the terms Hispanic and Latino were neo-colonialist terms since they both refrence Spain or Latin cultural groups. Instead they want people to use the entirely made up term "Chicano" to help erase the cultural colonialism.

Everyone I know says hispanic or just says they're Mexican, Panamanian, Costa Rican, etc...

[Dinner]

Originally posted by Japher
No you didn't! You take that back before I go all Ricky Lake on you! My daddy is most definitly not too lazy to steal! He's a Republican!

So you are saying he was born to steal.

[Master Zen]

Originally posted by Oerdin
The other one I've heard is Chicano though this seems to not be used by anyone outside of academia's ivory towers. Apparently a small group of academics believed the terms Hispanic and Latino were neo-colonialist terms since they both refrence Spain or Latin cultural groups. Instead they want people to use the entirely made up term "Chicano" to help erase the cultural colonialism.

Everyone I know says hispanic or just says they're Mexican, Panamanian, Costa Rican, etc...

I could be wrong here but IIRC the term Chicano refers to specifically Mexicans who crossed the border and became American citizens. I.e. it would be incorrect to call a Puerto Rican or Cuban immigrant a "chicano". Likewise (and this is the part I could be wrong) it only refers to first generation immigrants, not their Mexican-American offspring (or vice versa, can't remember)