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[Nostromo]

For an history of the GUI:

http://arstechnica.com/articles/paedia/gui.ars

[Elok]

Enough of your bigotry, Aggie. Stick to hating Bill Gates for churning out crappy bug-filled software that gets raped by viruses. Or for using heavy-handed business strategies to ensure that anybody who uses a computer anywhere is forced to use said crap. The possibility that he might have stolen an idea from some other geek before half the people on this forum were even born? Psht. Remember, "a little hypocrisy never erased a twenty-page paper. So don't sweat it."

[chequita guevara]

Windows 95 = Mac 84 = Xerox 73

So please, let's stop the whining.

[Agathon]

Obviously Che knows little about the Xerox Alto.

Anyway, win a free ipod!!!

http://www.i-mockery.com/minimocks/ipod/default.php

The Ashley Simpson one is the best.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Asher
Microsoft Windows 1.0:

Did anybody notice something strange? How come the calendar is 1999?

Another thing is, AFAIK, Windows 3.0 was the first Windows with a GUI.

[Asher]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger
Did anybody notice something strange? How come the calendar is 1999?

You don't think it's possible at all for someone to capture the screen as part of a history document?

Another thing is, AFAIK, Windows 3.0 was the first Windows with a GUI.

Well, as usual, you're so fundamentally off-base that I really would like to know which university you got your degree from. If it was any self-respecting university, they'd revoke it.

FWIW, the screenshots come from the ArsTechnica "History of GUIs" article that was linked above. ArsTechnica has a sterling reputation in the community, so if you want to do accuse them of lying or faking screenshots, that's your perogative. In the end you're still a clueless partisan idiot.

[Asher]

Originally posted by Agathon
Apple didn't steal anything from Xerox. They paid Xerox. In any case Apple hired most of the talented GUI people away from Xerox, and they are who invented it, not a corporation.

It's interesting that you arbitarily separate the inventors/developers from corporation only when it suits you best.

The GUI has been a "work in progress" for decades -- many people from many companies working on it, even before Xerox.

The Apple fanboys have little to be proud of, so they compensate by making **** up blatantly or twisting it to reflect the God status of Apple, "The Creator".

[Az]

wow, I've never seen Win 1.0 before. It's pretty ****ing ugly. the xerox one looks the better one of them all, really.

[Asher]

Originally posted by Az
wow, I've never seen Win 1.0 before. It's pretty ****ing ugly. the xerox one looks the better one of them all, really.

Windows ran on a lot easier (and cheaper) hardware than those.

The Xerox GUI looks nice, but when the machine costs $75,000 to run it on...

[Az]

Yeah, i pretty much realize that: the xerox machine looks like a computer from the 90s. Still, the colour pattern on the win1.0 is the most disgusting thing ever. ( Though it does come frome the 80s ).

I prefer the more clean-cut, b&w look, ala apple and xerox.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Asher
You don't think it's possible at all for someone to capture the screen as part of a history document?

You missed it entirely.

If it were something like 1989, sure. 1999 was after Windows 98, thus, a highly dubious image.

Originally posted by Asher
FWIW, the screenshots come from the ArsTechnica "History of GUIs" article that was linked above. ArsTechnica has a sterling reputation in the community, so if you want to do accuse them of lying or faking screenshots, that's your perogative.

That's all right, something like this would demand at least a second, independent source.

Originally posted by Asher
In the end you're still a clueless partisan idiot.

That's 24 hours for you, Mr Milford.

[Frozzy]

You missed it entirely.

If it were something like 1989, sure. 1999 was after Windows 98, thus, a highly dubious image.

I still have a PC running Windows 95. Does that mean if I take a screenshot of its Time/Date Properties with today's (2005) date on it, it's automatically dubious? Additionally, I think I would have a hard time believing an image would still exist 16 years. Personally I find a Win 1.0 SS with a 1989 date on it far more dubious

That's all right, something like this would demand at least a second, independent source.

No it doesn't. It is certainly nothing out of the ordinary. Like I said, and Asher implied, there's nothing stopping someone setting up a system with Windows 1.0 on it. Just a question of getting the relevant pieces. There'd be no real point to it, other than for a historical document, but it is certainly possible.

Really I don't see where your problem lies.

[Fve Crathva]

I think they should have incremented the year. January 9, 1900 would have been hilarious.

SP

[Agathon]

The GUI has been a "work in progress" for decades -- many people from many companies working on it, even before Xerox.

And you continue to repeat the same tiresome crap you always do. Nowhere have I ever claimed that Apple invented the whole widget. On the other hand, I have claimed that the current crop of GUIs owes more to the Macintosh than to anything that came before it. Even the Ars article basically says that IIRC.

[Fve Crathva]

Perhaps screenshots from a Sourceforge project are reliable:

http://bochs.sourceforge.net/screenshots.html

Maybe an IBM employee working on a Mac would be more believeable:

http://www.kernelthread.com/mac/vpc/win.html

Hmmm...

SP