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  • A man assualts a woman, she dies of her injuries. Murder?

    This is a hypthetical. A man assaults a woman, but she does not die immediately. Sometime later, she does die of injuries she sustained in the assault. Is the man guilty of murder or at least of manslaughter?
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    Yes. She died because of her injuries.
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    No. She died because life support was withdrawn.
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    No. Michael Schiavo is not guilty even if he did it.
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    Bananas. The girl consented to withdrawal of life support.
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  • #2
    manslaughter more likely conviction
    murder u havent proved with such a little story
    When you find yourself arguing with an idiot, you might want to rethink who the idiot really is.
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    • #3
      At least manslaughter, probably murder.

      Imran, you've been studying this stuff...what do you say?

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      • #4
        This is a hypthetical.


        Given the latest news around the forum, I somehow doubt this.
        urgh.NSFW

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        • #5
          Something you would like to share Ned?
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          • #6
            to me u cant prove murder
            all we have here is the guy and gal got in fight. she died later of those wounds. Da needs to prove he meant to hurt her and then prove it was intentional
            When you find yourself arguing with an idiot, you might want to rethink who the idiot really is.
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            • #7
              Define "sometime later".

              If it is sortly after, it is murder.

              Did she die solely of injuries sustained in the battery or was it something else?

              Basically, if she died of injuries related to the assault, even if its been a year or so, it STILL is murder.
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              • #8
                All death from murder is delayed action- why does it make a difference if its a few milliseconds or a couple of weels?
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Lancer
                  Something you would like to share Ned?
                  Yeah, the news is that Mark Furman is investigating and will publish his findings in a new book due out in a month.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                    Define "sometime later".

                    If it is sortly after, it is murder.

                    Did she die solely of injuries sustained in the battery or was it something else?

                    Basically, if she died of injuries related to the assault, even if its been a year or so, it STILL is murder.
                    That's what I learned in law school as well.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Mrs. Tuberski
                      to me u cant prove murder
                      all we have here is the guy and gal got in fight. she died later of those wounds. Da needs to prove he meant to hurt her and then prove it was intentional
                      Yes, we need some of those facts as well... was it in the heat of passion or did he want to hurt her... what happened?

                      Oh, and I think we all know Ned's intentions here, silly as they are.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Ned
                        Yeah, the news is that Mark Furman is investigating and will publish his findings in a new book due out in a month.
                        You'd think after the OJ trial, he'd learn to keep his head low, nah?
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                        • #13
                          The delay is irrelevant. If the attack was premeditated its murder. If it was a heat of passion thing its manslaugter-- whether seh dies immediately or 6 months later
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                          • #14
                            Flubber, the delay isn't TOTALLY irrelevent. Old England law had a rule where if the person died after a year and a day of the incident, the proximate cause wasn't satisfied. Most jurisdictions have done away with the rule, but some states have a restriction (Washington state has a three years and a day rule).
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                            • #15
                              When I worked for the DA's office in New York back in the 80's, that case would definitely been prosecuted as a murder.
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