Further problemitization of Bolton as diplomat

[DeathByTheSword]

ok thanks oerdin and now i want to hear a rep talking so that i can his story

[chequita guevara]

Our American eagle has two right wings.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by DeathByTheSword
but how polorized is the US really?

There's a large center that doesn't give a damn, but the left and right are more furious at each other now than I've seen in my whole life. Both think the other is destroying the country and their way of life and must be stopped.

[DeathByTheSword]

then was bush elected because the centre though kerry was an idiot or was bush elected because he was rep.?

[chequita guevara]

Mainly because we're at war, and the electorate is stupid and thought Bush would do a better job at running the war than Kerry.

[DinoDoc]

Well to be fair. Kerry did run a ****ty campaign to replace Bush and his position on Iraq (I voted for the 87 billion before I voted against it.) was never all that clear to the electorate.

[Odin]

The center went for Shrub because the Repubs were better mudslingers than the Dems were. Oh, and also, Kerry was boring. My. US governmnet Proffessor made a good point that every winner of the presidential election since 1960 was a better speaker than his rival. I'm convinced that some people actually do vote for the person they would like have a beer with.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
Well to be fair. Kerry did run a ****ty campaign to replace Bush and his position on Iraq (I voted for the 87 billion before I voted against it.) was never all that clear to the electorate.

True dat.

[Admiral]

What's scary is that a number of respected journals (ie, I either read it in the Times or the Post, but don't remember which) consider Kerry the frontrunner for 2008, or at worst, tied with Hillary.

But res polarization, we are increasingly moving into communities of people who only share our political viewpoint. My college, for instance, has 2400 students, and among them are 15 conservatives. The College Democrats had to create a College Republicans (run by the Democrats, naturally) in order to host a bipartisan forum. This is true on a greater scale, and the result is that when we think of Republicans, we don't think Philip from across the road. Rather, we construct some hypothetical Republican, who is only vaguely personlike. The other side does the same thing, and the result is the polarization that we're seeing now.

[MrFun]

Originally posted by DeathByTheSword
ok thanks oerdin and now i want to hear a rep talking so that i can his story

And we also have some Republicans calling others who disagree with President Bush's foreign/war policies as being unpatriotic, and accusing them of hating their own country.



Now days, disagreement with President Bush = hatred of one's own country for some Republicans.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Admiral
What's scary is that a number of respected journals (ie, I either read it in the Times or the Post, but don't remember which) consider Kerry the frontrunner for 2008, or at worst, tied with Hillary.

heh. Do the Dems want to continue sucking?

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
heh. Do the Dems want to continue sucking?

It seems so. I think the little *****es like that, don't they? Oh yeah, that's the spot, baby . . . er' excuse me.

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Admiral
What's scary is that a number of respected journals (ie, I either read it in the Times or the Post, but don't remember which) consider Kerry the frontrunner for 2008, or at worst, tied with Hillary.

WHY, god, WHY!?




I voted for Kerry, but I am also a realist -- we're better off without giving Kerry a second chance to lose. He would made a good president, but majority of Americans are not up to electing a good president.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Originally posted by Admiral
What's scary is that a number of respected journals (ie, I either read it in the Times or the Post, but don't remember which) consider Kerry the frontrunner for 2008, or at worst, tied with Hillary.

That's not scary, because it's meaningless. At this stage of the game, the only thing such polls are measuring is name recognition. That's why the same polls show Guiliani as the favorite for the GOP nomination and show Frist as barely a blip on the radar, but anyone actually paying attention sees Frist as the man to beat in the GOP primaries, and Kerry as over.

[chequita guevara]

Obama in 2008.