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  • #16
    Clause 4 was abandoned/replaced in the mid-90s.
    One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.

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    • #17
      yep. exactly at the same time Labour became New Labour.
      'The very basis of the liberal idea – the belief of individual freedom is what causes the chaos' - William Kristol, son of the founder of neo-conservitivism, talking about neo-con ideology and its agenda for you.info here. prove me wrong.

      Bush's Republican=Neo-con for all intent and purpose. be afraid.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by KrazyHorse


        Is it really that recent?
        Pretty much- disaffected Labour members formed the S.D.P., which also joined with the Liberals to form the Lib-Dems. On social issues they became more 'soft' than Labourites like anti-gay Blunkett, or pro-hunting Hoey.


        It was a Liberal that first suggested comprehensive socialized health care schemes in the U.K. by the way, though it fell to a Labour government to implement them.
        Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.

        ...patriotism is not enough. I must have no hatred or bitterness towards anyone. Edith Cavell, 1915

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        • #19
          Originally posted by VetLegion
          I voted right of centre just to skew the results
          I am in: polljacking

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          • #20
            When I first heard a Brit here mention the Lib-Dems a few years ago I thought he'd walked out of a time machine. I didn't even know they were still around...

            In the UK, that is. We've still got them...
            12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
            Stadtluft Macht Frei
            Killing it is the new killing it
            Ultima Ratio Regum

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Dauphin
              Clause 4 was abandoned/replaced in the mid-90s.
              I'm assuming that Clause Four was the "socialist albatross 'round Labour's neck" (as I heard it referred to about a decade ago)?
              12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
              Stadtluft Macht Frei
              Killing it is the new killing it
              Ultima Ratio Regum

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              • #22
                It was what many people called the defining clause of original Labour
                One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.

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                • #23
                  Hmph. Our social democrats are still social democrats...
                  12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                  Stadtluft Macht Frei
                  Killing it is the new killing it
                  Ultima Ratio Regum

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by KrazyHorse
                    Hmph. Our social democrats are still social democrats...

                    Evenn today, the British Labour Party is still a relatively broad 'church'- it has to be to simultaneously accommodate the likes of Big Brother Blunkett and less socially doctrinaire members.


                    Why, even the Tory Party now has an out gay member of parliament. Still has lots and lots of roomy closets, though....
                    Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.

                    ...patriotism is not enough. I must have no hatred or bitterness towards anyone. Edith Cavell, 1915

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                    • #25
                      right wing extremist.
                      Last edited by Whoha; May 7, 2005, 12:21.

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                      • #26
                        Re: Right or left?

                        Originally posted by Winston
                        Let's have one of those things again.


                        let's not
                        A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Winston


                          And a lot of Danes would love to hand them over to you.
                          I didn't know that you hated US so much and that you want to destroy it in such a cruel way
                          With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

                          Steven Weinberg

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                          • #28
                            Left.

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                            • #29
                              Social libetarian, fiscal conservative. Programs aimed at children come before either.
                              The worst form of insubordination is being right - Keith D., marine veteran. A dictator will starve to the last civilian - self-quoted
                              And on the eigth day, God realized it was Monday, and created caffeine. And behold, it was very good. - self-quoted
                              Klaatu: I'm impatient with stupidity. My people have learned to live without it.
                              Mr. Harley: I'm afraid my people haven't. I'm very sorry… I wish it were otherwise.

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                              • #30
                                Aiming things at children.
                                Rethink Refuse Reduce Reuse

                                Do It Ourselves

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