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  • Meds cost $17K per week?

    How?

    Are they made of lunar minerals?



    Calgary boy gets help with expensive drug
    CTV.ca News Staff

    A young boy with a rare disease that requires a phenomenally expensive drug will get some temporary help with the cost from the Calgary Health Region.

    Mackenzie Olsen, 10, who lives on the Siksika First Nation east of Calgary, is afflicted with Hurler/Scheie syndrome. This rare disease is caused when a person lacks an enzyme called a-L-iduronidase.

    "Our first concern is Mackenzie's health and, as an interim solution, the Calgary Health Region will continue to provide therapy for Mackenzie," Leanne Niblock, health region's spokeswoman, said Monday.

    But the region wants the drug manufacturer and the federal government to address the issue, she said.

    Olsen had been getting the drug Aldurazyme, which replaces the missing enzyme, free as part of an international drug trial.

    However, the trial has ended. The boy's last treatment was Friday.

    The drug costs $17,000 per week. Health Canada does not cover its cost and says it is awaiting an independent review of whether it should be paid for.

    Lawyers were going to appear in court Tuesday to ask for an injunction requiring the region to continue Olsen's treatment.

    Have the health region's decision thrilled Raymond Amato, Mackenzie's father.

    "This interim thing is perfect,'' he told The Canadian Press. "That's all we were looking for, hoping for, but again this is just a Band-Aid on a problem until (Ujjal) Dosanjh and (Alberta Health Minister) Iris Evans sit down and figure out a solution.''

    Dosanjh, the federal health minister, said Sunday he is willing to meet with Amato, but no date has been established.

    But Dosanjh has also said the provincial government should pick up the huge cost, while Alberta's Premier Ralph Klein said it should be the federal government's responsibility.

    Amato said he doesn't care who pays, so long as the boy continues to receive the treatment.

    "Even if he gets everything ... he's never going to be our age unless some miracle cure comes up,'' he said.

    Most children with Hurler/Scheie syndrome don't live past 20.

    Olsen has lost half his eyesight and hearing so far, but could lead a relatively normal life with treatment could lead a relatively normal life.

    The disease, however, is ultimately fatal.

    With files from The Canadian Press


    I'm all for free markets, but I'm smelling a gouge.

    How can $850K per year be justified for a drug treatment?
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    This seems to be an extremely poor use of public health funds.
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    • #3
      It would seem to be a very poor use of anyone's health funds, unless you were very rich and had a spare $8.5 mil to splash down to keep junior alive til 20.
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      • #4
        But the real point is, how the hell could a weeks wroth of pills be worth $17K?
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        • #5
          Maybe the drug was über-expensive in terms of R and D and there's like 20 people on Earth who needs it.
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          • #6
            It may cost that much. The billions spent on R&D is pretty easy to reclaim when it's a commonly used medicine. If you spend a billion dollars, but will sell a hundred million units, you only need to make a profit of $10 per unit to recoup it. However for an exceedingly rare disorder, you may only sell a few thousand units, in which case you start needs thousands of dollars per unit just to break even.

            If he needs to take a few a day, $17000 a week isn't hard to imagine it costing. But sadly that's the way it works. If only one person was affected by a disorder, would it pay to use such huge manpower and costs to try to find a cure? Especially when that manpower could be used to try and find a cure for diabetes, or cancer.

            Much as it seems really harsh, $17000 per week for the quality of life you'd get being half blind and deaf and knowing you're going to die at 20 seems a little much. That money could save more lives that have a higher chance of being enjoyable.
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            • #7
              He needs a specific optical isomer. It's tricky and expensive to separate a L from a D. Plus the rareness of his disease, R and D costs, etc etc.

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              • #8
                Since it is a rare disease, the replacement enzyme is probably:

                1) grown in batches requiring a high level of manual guidance
                2) from bacterial stock that must be continually replaced through genetic manipulation to make sure mutations do not creep in.
                3) separated and purified in batches requiring a high level of manual guidance
                4) created in a low yield process
                5) done continuously in small batches to maintain a consistent, but small fresh supply (enzymes tend to have a very short half life)
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                • #9
                  This is a good article. If all the good things about Canada's health system that I hear from KrazyHorse are true, then you Canucks will mark this up to fulfilling the requirements for a civilized country and pay the bill happily.
                  I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                  • #10
                    I know here, many health care companies are encouraged to discover and create drugs for rare diseases and cover the costs... I think such programs should be more encouraged and even better compensated.
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                    • #11
                      cost of preparation + R&D costs + greed and compensation of risk.

                      This price makes sense.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by DanS
                        This is a good article. If all the good things about Canada's health system that I hear from KrazyHorse are true, then you Canucks will mark this up to fulfilling the requirements for a civilized country and pay the bill happily.
                        Well sort of.

                        The medicare program has never been a blank cheque to fund any treatment that people happen to want. But here I support the government funding the drug. Its available and the child can have a decent quality of life. If this costs 15 million dollars, so be it. We spend far more money on thisngs that are far less laudable.

                        I do think that the pricing should be examined so that it is reasonable but if it is expensive to discover and make, the drug company might be justified with even this high price
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by DanS
                          This is a good article. If all the good things about Canada's health system that I hear from KrazyHorse are true, then you Canucks will mark this up to fulfilling the requirements for a civilized country and pay the bill happily.
                          As opposed to the good old USA where we'd tell the kid to hurry up and die.
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                          • #14
                            Which makes sense, *if* the money can be put to better use - such as saving multiple people.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Kuciwalker
                              Which makes sense, *if* the money can be put to better use - such as saving multiple people.

                              A very big "if"

                              If you save this million and have this individual die, I seriously doubt that you can point at the other life (lives) that would now be saved.

                              In any health system, add a million dollars to the overall funding . . . what's the impact?? here we know that 17000 a week will give a child a decent quality of life. Our health care system routinely spends more than that keeping 90 year olds with heart failure going through another week of dementia and pain with no hope of ever leaving a hospital bed ( Family requires that all steps be taken to preserve life). If you want to focus money better, I say you would be better served to look to this area.

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