If GWB was pres in JFK's time then Cuba would be the other half of Jamaica

[Ned]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
My previous sources said that the offer was made to turn OBL over to the Saudis, not to the U.S. The wiki article makes it clear the U.S. had no choice, but right-wingers always make it look like Clinton deliberately let bin Laden go.

Good. Now we are straight.

[chequita guevara]

[Ned]

Che, it depends on the timing of the indictment vis-a-vis the offer.

[chequita guevara]

There was nothing to indict him for. He hadn't committed any crimes where the U.S. had jurisdiction.

The isn't for that, however.

[Ned]

Che, he was indicted in the 1993 WTC bombing. I think, though, the indictment came down in 1996, right about the time of the offer.

[Ecthy]

I think I know what it is for

@ che's sig: Völker hööört die Signaaale!

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Ned
Che, he was indicted in the 1993 WTC bombing. I think, though, the indictment came down in 1996, right about the time of the offer.

Ned, to my knowledge there has never been any evidence bin Laden had anything to do with the '93 WTC bombing. That was organized by Ramsey Yusef.

From Wiki:

Osama bin Laden is officially wanted by the United States in connection with the August 7, 1998 bombings of the United States embassies in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania and Nairobi, Kenya, that killed 225 people and injured more than 4000.

That's the first mention of his being a wanted criminal by the U.S.

[Ned]

Che, he was indicted by the grand jury.

[chequita guevara]

On October 21, 2004, John Lehman, a member of the 9/11 Commission, reported that Osama bin Laden is indeed alive, and that the Pentagon knows exactly where he is. According to Lehman, bin Laden is living in South Waziristan in the Toba Kakar Mountains of the Baluchistan region, surviving from donations from outside countries such as the United Arab Emirates and high-ranking ministers inside Saudi Arabia. "There is an American presence in the area, but we can't just send in troops," Lehman said. "If we did, we could have another Vietnam, and the United States cannot afford that right now."[8]

[Ecthy]

Baluchistan? not far from Iran

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Ned
Che, he was indicted by the grand jury.

Nothing here about it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Trade_Center_bombing

[Atahualpa]

Originally posted by Lancer
Ata, like I said my friend, you can hate his guts, but at least he's got some.

I am sorry, dear Lancer, that argument doesn't work for me...
Btw, because someone else mentioned he is soo honest seriously, people, every word out of his mouth is a lie, WMDs in iraq, take away estate tax so that farmers don't lose their farms
The cowboy image that some want to portray upon him is just looking through some pink glasses.

And what's that guts you are talking about? In the being of his presedency it looked like he was not really in charge, but the puppet of his advisors.... nowadays it just doesn't look anymore like this.. he is still the puppet though.
That guy has absolutely no brain and even less guts.

Meanwhile he's got a pretty efficient machinery behind him though and that's effective at hiding that he is a total whimp.

[dannubis]

yeah, everybody wants an illiterate cowboy at the command of the most powerfull military arsenal in the world.

and look what he has achieved so far wrt foreign politics (i couldn't give a rats ass about the things he screwed up in the US itself, and since you guys voted him into office twice, neither do you apparently)

1) a unified approach to counter terrorsism ? no, unilateral all the way
2) afghanistan and afghanistan? one big mess. but hey, now the people over there are at least free to get blown away to bits
3) stopping the progression of nuclear profileration ? hm, during his terms, at least three countries went nuclear. so no success there

but hey, i am sure for haliburton and some other multi nationals he is a great guy.

america über alles !!!

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Right, cuz Clinton never bombed Afganistan or Sudan nor did he go after the people who bombed the Cole.

Perhaps you could explain to me how a series of actions that accomplish nothing before being shoved to the back burner qualifies as a meaningful response?

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
Perhaps you could explain to me how a series of actions that accomplish nothing before being shoved to the back burner qualifies as a meaningful response?

They killed 19 memebers of AQ with the Afganistan bombing.