I need help.

[reds4ever]

Originally posted by Agathon

To me they are both crutches, if you are in trouble they must both seem pretty attactive.

If you are going to fall over, you might as well grab the nearest crutch.

Now thats a good comeback. It doesn't mean I agree however!

Is there a school of thought on the matter that just says 'Pull yourself together!"?. If so, then I'm all for that

[Agathon]

Is there a school of thought on the matter that just says 'Pull yourself together!"?. If so, then I'm all for that

In the end it comes down to that. You can perhaps fool yourself into thinking that God is doing it for you, but you have to make a change.

There's no avoiding that: no matter what quick fixes anyone might promise.

[reds4ever]

The thing I have trouble understanding is that when I have problems I first figure out what I can do about the problem. If I can do something , then I do it, if I can't do anything then 'what will be will be'. I've done all I can, so why worry?