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  • #46
    Power would be beamed down with microwaves to recievers


    Sure that's not going to harm the atmosphere in any way?
    Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing?
    Then why call him God? - Epicurus

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    • #47
      Sure that's not going to harm the atmosphere in any way?

      It won't.
      urgh.NSFW

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      • #48
        That much microwave energy is bound to sterlize rare mountain goats or something either that or it will create huge build ups of Ozone and no one will be able to tan at the beach any more.
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        • #49
          Originally posted by Skywise

          I couldn't agree more, but still, accidents happen. Maybe my fear is based on the fact that I have no idea on how nuke plants work and/or I dont know the safety precautions after a breakdown.
          I'ld wager dollars to donuts more people have died in coal and fossil fuel plants than all the victims of nuclear power and outlying residents combined.

          Let alone the *gasp* CO2 emitted and acid rain implications.

          For example, my brother works at a co-gen plant using coal fines from abandoned strip mines. More people are burnt from flash fire blow backs every year then you really want to know about.
          "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

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          • #50
            bushs energy plan makes no sense. hes talking out of both sides of his ass. first he wants to develope alternate fuels by subsidies, then he wants to develope more traditional fuels by tax and regulation breaks. tell me, how does that make us want to move from traditional to alternate fuels?
            "Everything for the State, nothing against the State, nothing outside the State" - Benito Mussolini

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            • #51
              I love it when the Fossil Fuel industry talks about "Clean Coal." Clean coal? thats an oxymoron.

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              • #52
                The ideal place to put a solar power plant is in space, where there's no atmosphere to get in the way, and no nighttime either. Power would be beamed down with microwaves to recievers, where it would heat water and spin turbines. A proposal to build such satellites first came up in the 1970s during the first oil crisis.

                Using materials mined on the Moon, the project was supposed to turn a profit around now had it been started in the 70s.
                Solar Power Satellites require several hundreds of billions of dollars in capital expenditures before break-even and, as such, make nuclear power's gargantuan capital requirements look insignificant in comparison.

                I'm skeptical that they will ever work in the real world, unless we start building space elevators with a core of nano-wire to transport the electricity from orbit to the ground. (This actually is a very sound idea, although we don't have the required materials yet and may never have the required materials.)

                I worked on one of these SPS projects in a former life. Conceptually, they make sense. But I think the public will resist the microwave transportation, no matter how good it works.
                Last edited by DanS; April 27, 2005, 15:05.
                I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by DanS

                  But I think the public will resist the microwave transportation, no matter how good it works.
                  Yep, basically, nuts will start screaming that it would burn a hole in the atmosphere, and people will beleive them.

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                  • #54
                    To be clear, we don't know all of the gotchas with regard to the environment of beaming energy through microwaves from orbit to Earth. Also, there may be unintended consequences with things like insects or some birds, for instance (you never know).

                    On the other hand, birds might fly into a space elevator too.

                    /me shrugs shoulders
                    I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                    • #55
                      Just wait until a plane flies into the microwave beam... it'd beam like microwaving aluminum foil, except a BAZILLION TIMES BIGGER.

                      ...

                      I want to see that

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                      • #56
                        Wait until the first plane flies into a space elevator too.

                        Could be impressive to watch.
                        I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                        • #57
                          It's probably easier to avoid a gigantic cable than a beam of light.

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                          • #58
                            The "beam of light" would be very large in comparison and wouldn't be visible, but indeed a space elevator would be easier to miss.
                            I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Odin


                              Yep, basically, nuts will start screaming that it would burn a hole in the atmosphere, and people will beleive them.
                              I was way ahead of you..

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                              • #60
                                A microwave beam could have military applications as well- why bomb when you can zap?
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