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  • #16
    That she was a nasty person, who was certainly not the saint everyone pretends. If there's a hell, she's in it.

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    Criticism

    After Indian Prime Minister Indira Gandhi's suspension of civil liberties in 1975, Mother Teresa said: "People are happier. There are more jobs. There are no strikes." These approving comments were seen as a result of the friendship between Teresa and the Congress Party. Mother Teresa's comments were even criticized outside India within Catholic media. (Chatterjee, p. 276.)

    An Indian-born writer living in Britain, Dr. Aroup Chatterjee, who had briefly worked in one of Mother Teresa's homes, began investigations into the finances and other practices of Teresa's order. In 1994, two British journalists, Christopher Hitchens and Tariq Ali, produced a critical British Channel 4 documentary, Hell's Angel, based on Chatterjee's work.

    The next year, Hitchens published The Missionary Position: Mother Teresa in Theory and Practice, a pamphlet which repeated many of the accusations in the documentary. Chatterjee himself published The Final Verdict in 2003, a less polemic work than those of Hitchens and Ali, but equally critical of Teresa's operations.
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    Stance on abortion

    From the early 1970s, Mother Teresa began to attract some criticism. Many advocates of the family planning and pro-choice movements were critical of her views and influence because she was opposed to artificial contraception and abortion. Mother Teresa frequently spoke against them publicly and in meetings with high level government officials. In her Nobel Prize acceptance speech, she declared, "Abortion is the worst evil, and the greatest enemy of peace... Because if a mother can kill her own child, what will prevent us from killing ourselves or one another? Nothing."

    In the aftermath of the Bangladesh Liberation War, it was determined that more than 450,000 women in East Pakistan (now Bangladesh) had been systematically raped, giving birth to a few thousand war-babies. Even in these circumstances, she asserted her rejection of abortion by publicly renouncing abortion as an option and by calling upon the women left behind to keep their unborn children. She characterized her views later when asked in 1993 about a 14-year-old rape victim in Ireland, "Abortion can never be necessary... because it is pure killing."

    This stance is in line with that of the Roman Catholic Church, which asserts natural family planning is the only acceptable form of birth control, even in cases where conception is the result of sexual abuse or rape.
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    Baptisms of the dying

    Mother Teresa encouraged members of her order to baptize dying patients, without regard to the individual's religion. In a speech at the Scripps Clinic in California in January 1992, she said: "Something very beautiful... not one has died without receiving the special ticket for St. Peter, as we call it. We call baptism ticket for St. Peter. We ask the person, do you want a blessing by which your sins will be forgiven and you receive God? They have never refused. So 29,000 have died in that one house [in Kalighat] from the time we began in 1952."

    Critics have argued that patients were not provided sufficient information to make an informed decision about whether they wanted to be baptized and the theological significance of a Christian baptism.

    Some of Mother Teresa's defenders have argued that baptisms are either soul-saving or harmless and hence the criticisms would be pointless (a variant of Pascal's Wager). Simon Leys, in a letter to the New York Review of Books, wrote: "Either you believe in the supernatural effect of this gesture – and then you should dearly wish for it. Or you do not believe in it, and the gesture is as innocent and well-meaningly innocuous as chasing a fly away with a wave of the hand."


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    Quality of medical care

    In 1991, Dr. Robin Fox, editor of the British medical journal The Lancet, visited the Home for Dying Destitutes in Calcutta (now Kolkata) and described the medical care the patients received as "haphazard". He observed that sisters and volunteers, some of whom had no medical knowledge, had to make decisions about patient care, because of the lack of doctors in the hospice. Dr. Fox specifically held Teresa responsible for conditions in this home, and observed that her order did not distinguish between curable and incurable patients, so that people who could otherwise survive would be at risk of dying from infections and lack of treatment.

    Fox conceded that the regimen he observed included cleanliness, the tending of wounds and sores, and kindness, but he noted that the sisters' approach to managing pain was "disturbingly lacking". The formulary at the facility Fox visited lacked strong analgesics which he felt clearly separated Mother Teresa's approach from the hospice movement. There have been a series of other reports documenting inattention to medical care in the order's facilities. Similar points of view have also been expressed by some former volunteers who worked for Teresa's order. Mother Teresa herself referred to the facilities as "Houses of the Dying".

    In contrast to the conditions at her homes, Mother Teresa sought medical treatment for herself at renowned medical clinics in the United States, Europe, and India, drawing charges of hypocrisy from critics such as Hitchens.
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    Destination of donations

    It has been alleged by former employees of Mother Teresa's order that Teresa refused to authorize the purchase of medical equipment, and that donated money was instead transferred to the Vatican Bank for general use, even if it was specifically earmarked for charitable purposes. See Missionaries of Charity for a detailed discussion of these allegations. Mother Teresa did not disclose her order's financial situation except where she was required to do so by law.
    Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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    • #17
      That is the worst she did?

      Big deal.

      ACK!
      Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust!

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      • #18
        I am extremely sorry for opening this bag of worms. All "famous" people will have naysayers. For the most part she sounds as though she was Catholic <--not a bad thing, but often misunderstood.

        Back on topic (sort of)...

        I have a signed copy of Hannity's book "Deliver us from Evil" My Dad is a big fan, so I got two of them. One for both of us. I've never watched his show or read anything from him. The most exposure that I've had to the man was getting his autograph. I imagine that I'll get around to reading the book sooner or later.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Tuberski
          That is the worst she did?

          Big deal.
          I agree this is what you could reproach to pretty much every über-religious whacko. Save for this:

          It has been alleged by former employees of Mother Teresa's order that Teresa refused to authorize the purchase of medical equipment, and that donated money was instead transferred to the Vatican Bank for general use

          This one is pretty serious IMO.
          "I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
          "I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
          "I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- Dis

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Tuberski
            That is the worst she did?

            Big deal.

            ACK!
            No. You'll need to read the Hitchen's book for that. That's what I could come up with quick.
            Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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            • #21
              I didn't read anything but the title of this thread, so I have to disagree.
              “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
              "Capitalism ho!"

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              • #22
                Ming is much more huggable than Mother Theresa.

                For whatever reason, Mother Theresa was a fan of the Albanian Communist regime.
                Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else?

                It's no good (from an evolutionary point of view) to have the physique of Tarzan if you have the sex drive of a philosopher. -- Michael Ruse
                The Nedaverse I can accept, but not the Berzaverse. There can only be so many alternate realities. -- Elok

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                • #23
                  Ming

                  Mother Theresa

                  Enver Hoxha
                  ~ If Tehben spits eggs at you, jump on them and throw them back. ~ Eventis ~ Eventis Dungeons & Dragons 6th Age Campaign: Chapter 1, Chapter 2, Chapter 3, Chapter 4: (Unspeakable) Horror on the Hill ~

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                  • #24
                    Hannity is a professional liar and hypocrite for the GOP even if his salary comes from Ailes/Murdoch.

                    One example: he promotes this image of uber-patriotism in his support for the troops, but in the past election he repeatedly referred to an incident where Kerry jumped off a swift boat running into the jungle after an enemy soldier armed with an RPG shooting him. Certainly an act of bravery if not heroism if you ask me.
                    But Hannity consistently characterised the incident as Kerry shooting a teenager in the back.

                    Huh? Was Kerry supposed to wait for the guy to turn around? Maybe ask for an ID to check his age too?

                    If Kerry was apolitical and not in the Senate Hannity wouldn't smear him, he'd be defending him against
                    critics.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Berzerker
                      One example: he promotes this image of uber-patriotism in his support for the troops, but in the past election he repeatedly referred to an incident where Kerry jumped off a swift boat running into the jungle after an enemy soldier armed with an RPG shooting him. Certainly an act of bravery if not heroism if you ask me.
                      But Hannity consistently characterised the incident as Kerry shooting a teenager in the back.
                      Is that the same example where the swift boat emptied its guns in the bushes and kerry jumped off and pumped a few rounds in the corpse and claimed victory?
                      "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

                      “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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                      • #26
                        nope, where'd you get that version? even hannity wasnt making that claim.

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                        • #27
                          Note the
                          "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

                          “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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                          • #28
                            duly noted

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                            • #29
                              Ming
                              The Party seeks power entirely for its own sake. We are not interested in the good of others; we are interested solely in power. Not wealth or luxury or long life or happiness: only power, pure power.

                              Join Eventis, the land of spam and unspeakable horrors!

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                              • #30
                                Che's got a point about Mother Teresa... hippies have taken her as some sort of saint. Not so, not so... there's a lot of blatantly hypocritical stuff she has done. Now that doesn't make her evil, mind you, but she wasn't perfect.

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