Recruiters

[Bosh]

reposted from an ex-pat forum:

http://expatinkorea.com/expat/viewtopic.php?t=4596

"Hi, my name is X from Arse Rape Recruiting, we got your e-mail"

"Oh hi, how are you?"

"Yes fine thanks. Could you tell us what you are interested in?"

"I outlined everything in my e-mail...you just said you got it..?"

"Oh yes...So where do you want to work?"

"....In Seoul...as it clearly states in my e-mail...which you have"

"I see it's in your e-mail, yes...Where are you now? USA?"

"No...I'm in Seoul...the subject of my e-mail was "IN SEOUL NOW" did you really get my e-mail?"

"Yes. Could you send us your resume?"

"I sent you my resume in my e-mail, which you have."

"Oh yes. Well I can't remember seeing it. Did you send it in Microsoft Word format?

"Yes I certainly did...twice now that I realise which recruiting firm you are with."

"Ah..maybe we couldn't open it, could you send it again using a Word document?"

"Did you try opening it in wordpad or notepad? They can also open word files?"

"No...my computer doesn't have those."

"Actually all computers running Windows have those programs..they come with Windows....did you really read my e-mail? You didn't did you?"

"We tried but couldn't, please send your details again. Oh, you want kindergarten right? And Saturdays and you want to work in Daegu for 1.3 million with a shared apartment? Oh and you want to teach mental patients in the childrens ward of a run down underfunded Korean mental hospital right? "

"Yep that's me. My name is **** Head McHomo. Wow, you did read my e-mail! You're a great recruiter!"

"Thanks! We'll be in contact! Anyong~!"

"Cheers whore!"

Is it just in the Korean EFL industry that recruiters are such blatantly incompetant ****s, or are they the same everywhere?

[Vince278]

Both.

[Saras]

[Urban Ranger]

People work at agencies don't know nuthin'. They are extra bad for tech sectors.

[Bosh]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger
People work at agencies don't know nuthin'. They are extra bad for tech sectors.

I can imagine. What makes EFL recruiting so awful is that there's often a language gap and a large profit margin so you get HUGE numbers of incompetant fly by night recruiters...

[Urban Ranger]

How big is the profit margin?

[chequita guevara]

Pretty much that incompetent here too.

[duke o' york]

Originally posted by Boshko
I can imagine. What makes EFL recruiting so awful is that there's often a language gap and a large profit margin so you get HUGE numbers of incompetant fly by night recruiters...

You also get HUGE numbers of incompetent teachers, with no experience of a class, and no idea of the language or country.
My brother did a course that qualified him to teach EFL. In a weekend. With no pupils.
Praise the Lord he's never been bothered to use it on some unfortunate kids in order to get a paid holiday.

[Japher]

I just got of the phone with a recruiter who works for a company that only places Chemical Engineers... I hope he is good at what he does, because I am a real hard sell.

[Boris Godunov]

Hey now!

Okay, I don't recruit for EFL, but it is my line of work, you bastards.

[rah]

A while back a head hunter called and said there was an opportunity for twice my current salary. Normally I laugh these off but I was feeling charitable that day so I figured it was worth a few minutes in case the offer was legit. The told me to come down and fill out the paper work and have the recruiters interview me so they could sell me better to their client company. Well I went in to the recruiter's office and sat with their people, and started asking them about the position that they had mentioned on the phone. After much hemming and hawwing, the recruiter said that everyone thought I did great and would I be interested working for them as a manager of recruiters/executive recruiter. (at a salary considerably lower than what I told them my current salary was) but not to worry because in a few years I would be qualified for a possible bonus that when combined with the salary would still be less than I currently made, (not including bonus)

They were shocked that I didn't jump for it.
DUH
No brain no pain,
Needless to say, I never returned any calls from that company and am not charitable when recruiters call me now.

[Boris Godunov]

There are a lot of unscrupulous recruiting firms out there, especially ones where the recruiters work on commission. I was fortunate to work at a firm that was very ethical. Too ethical, at times, as they refused to work for Take Two Interactive because they published GTA. Whatever.

Anyway, I've heard all the horror stories of working with the snake oil salesman. It does make work for the honest recruiters very hard, sadly.

[Tuberski]

Recruiters suck.

I talked to one once and a few days later I was Shanghaied to Illinois had my head shaved and made to wear funny clothes.......

ACK!

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger
People work at agencies don't know nuthin'. They are extra bad for tech sectors.

I have a pretty lengthy list of companies and individuals I won't deal with, either as an employer or contractor. The one who hooked me up with my present job was pretty damned good though - no BS, he found me, had an interview set up in a week (only because the client guy was out three of those days) and it went phone interview Friday after work, in person interview the next Monday, final phone interview Tuesday (phone because the client liked me and was just going through the motions of having the person I'd be working for talk to me), "when can you start" offer two days later, and start the following week.

Total time from first contact to first day on the job less than three weeks, and a good rate and no pain, no BS throughout.

[DRoseDARs]

Re: Recruiters

Originally posted by Boshko
reposted from an ex-pat forum:

http://expatinkorea.com/expat/viewtopic.php?t=4596

Is it just in the Korean EFL industry that recruiters are such blatantly incompetant ****s, or are they the same everywhere?

Sounds like someone's job needs to be outsourced to India...