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  • #16
    Why does UR care about this? Does it make more work for him or does it just annoy him?

    I say let sleeping dogs lie.
    Monkey!!!

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    • #17
      Who knows what relationships the org chart implies. I have seen enineering departments report to the CFO.
      “It is no use trying to 'see through' first principles. If you see through everything, then everything is transparent. But a wholly transparent world is an invisible world. To 'see through' all things is the same as not to see.”

      ― C.S. Lewis, The Abolition of Man

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      • #18
        He's probably just lazy, in which case UR will not make an enemy for life, if UR sets the meeting sufficiently far ahead that he can scramble to get his opinions in order. UR can even send him a note asking whether UR can help in any way by answering questions or whatnot to bring the choice to a conclusion and look good in front of the Big Cheese.

        All good politics.
        Last edited by DanS; April 21, 2005, 11:29.
        I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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        • #19
          I'm with Ming, modified by DanS. Put the meeting two or more weeks into the future, so the guy has sufficient time to learn the two systems and make a recommendation. He'll be annoyed, but not hating.
          Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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          • #20
            If Big Cheese is really concerned about this change why isn't he pushing for it and making sure that it happens. I say let it go.
            I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
            - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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            • #21
              Before inviting for the meeting, UR should check that the Big Boss is not already aware of the problem. Or that the accountant has not made some creative accounting that had made the Boss really happy!
              Statistical anomaly.
              The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.

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              • #22
                Ming's experience, and general w00tliness in terms of work advice, have got me on side.
                To be honest, all other possible resolutions seem quite poor against that.

                [/suck]

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by DanS
                  He's probably just lazy, in which case UR will not make an enemy for life, if UR sets the meeting sufficiently far ahead that he can scramble to get his opinions in order. UR can even send him a note asking whether UR can help in any way by answering questions or whatnot to bring the choice to a conclusion and look good in front of the Big Cheese.

                  All good politics.
                  Nice additions... and far more politically correct...
                  However, if the guy is a complete jerk, and not part of my direct report chain... I'd put him on the spot
                  Keep on Civin'
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                  • #24
                    And the real lesson here is:




                    DO NOT CROSS MING
                    “It is no use trying to 'see through' first principles. If you see through everything, then everything is transparent. But a wholly transparent world is an invisible world. To 'see through' all things is the same as not to see.”

                    ― C.S. Lewis, The Abolition of Man

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                    • #25
                      Failing that, bludgeon him and feed him to hungry pigs...
                      Speaking of Erith:

                      "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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                      • #26
                        He sounds like a typical Chinese white collar to me.

                        Highly averse to intiative or making decisions, and for good reason: if something goes wrong later, the Big Boss will hang him out to dry in order to preserve his own face.

                        Ming's advice is great, however in Chinese culture that "making an enemy for life" part is much more serious than in western office politics. If you cause a Chinese co-worker to loose face in front of a superior, you may well be facing someone who will toil tirelessly and relentlessly behind the scenes for YEARS to undermine your work or reputation, all the while waiting for just the right moment when he has a chance to sink a knife deep into your back.

                        Occasionally this metaphor crosses into reality, although I believe in Hong Kong meat cleavers are favored over knives ...

                        Good luck with this slacker, UR!
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                        • #27
                          Thanks all

                          SpencerH,

                          No, he's not my superior. Although he sometimes acts like he is.


                          Davout,

                          The problem is the old computerised accounting system is old. It runs on a vanilla Wintel computer with no backup. It is probably around for a few years and can go at any time. If it goes it goes and at least 6 month of data will be lost. I don't think I should be responsible for it, but I am certain that I will be caught in the blast nevertheless.


                          Japher,

                          It's part of a bigger project under me, and it can't finish until we move to a new accounting system.
                          (\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
                          (='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
                          (")_(") "Starting the fire from within."

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                          • #28
                            stand on a ledge and say you won't come down until a choice is made on the software - either that or you'll jump.
                            Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..

                            Look, I just don't anymore, okay?

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                            • #29
                              It's part of a bigger project under me, and it can't finish until we move to a new accounting system.
                              In that case, go to the account and demand a decission. Give a timeline, if he don't meet it, go the head cheese.

                              The last thing you need is your rep to be based off that lazy bastard.
                              Monkey!!!

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                              • #30
                                Be careful, he may know all about the big cheese's dirty laundery......like the second set of books they drag out for the IRS every year. He may even know about the little accounts in the Cayman Islands, or was it Panama? In short, maybe he goofs off because the big chees has good reason to let him stay.
                                "I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!

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