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  • #16
    Yet another sign of China's inevitable rise.
    KH FOR OWNER!
    ASHER FOR CEO!!
    GUYNEMER FOR OT MOD!!!

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    • #17
      Power to the people!
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      • #18
        Anarchists and left-wing loonies

        Bring order to the streets!
        In Soviet Russia, Fake borises YOU.

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        • #19
          Indeed. I hope these hippies are given the beating they deserve.
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          Do It Ourselves

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
            Yet another sign of China's inevitable rise.
            Nah, not yet. We still don't have people releasing sarin in subway stations or fire at random people in shopping malls.
            (\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
            (='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
            (")_(") "Starting the fire from within."

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            • #21
              I don't think anyone has predicted the inevitable rise of Japan as a world power, though.

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              • #22
                Some people did in the 80's and they all look like jackasses now. Nothing is inevitable.
                KH FOR OWNER!
                ASHER FOR CEO!!
                GUYNEMER FOR OT MOD!!!

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by C0ckney
                  could you tell us a little about the village committees UR, like who votes for them, who can be part of them, what they are responsible for, what powers they have, that sort of thing?
                  Until UR comments, I can give a little general background. The elections take place at the lowest level of local Party representation, rural villages. This was started some years ago (ten?), and remarkably, some locals really have been able to elect non-Party representatives. However, as far as I know, non-Party representatives have not been very effective, as any actions unpopular with local CCP officials are simply throttled at the next higher level of local gov't (keep in mind the very high degree of autonomy of local officials, especially in remote rural areas).

                  The net result has been essentially a fig leaf of democracy without any real political impact. Despite some talk (which is particularly cheap in China ), there has been no further expansion of voting rights since this experiment was begun.
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Kuciwalker
                    I don't think anyone has predicted the inevitable rise of Japan as a world power, though.
                    Many people did it in the early 20th century, and it took a world war to prove them wrong.
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Kuciwalker
                      I don't think anyone has predicted the inevitable rise of Japan as a world power, though.


                      You weren't around in the 80's were you?

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by JohnT


                        You weren't around in the 80's were you?
                        Very literally no

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by mindseye
                          The net result has been essentially a fig leaf of democracy without any real political impact. Despite some talk (which is particularly cheap in China ), there has been no further expansion of voting rights since this experiment was begun.
                          sounds about right. cheers for that mindseye
                          "The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
                            Some people did in the 80's and they all look like jackasses now. Nothing is inevitable.
                            I agree.
                            I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by mindseye
                              Until UR comments....

                              Shhh - remember the MSS are listening
                              “It is no use trying to 'see through' first principles. If you see through everything, then everything is transparent. But a wholly transparent world is an invisible world. To 'see through' all things is the same as not to see.”

                              ― C.S. Lewis, The Abolition of Man

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                              • #30
                                New words added to the filter, these just in:

                                Potable Water
                                Pollution
                                Environmental damage
                                Local Corruption

                                China Soups Up Internet Censoring Filters


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                                Apr 14, 9:43 AM (ET)

                                By ANICK JESDANUN
                                NEW YORK (AP) - The Chinese government has become increasingly sophisticated at controlling the Internet, taking a multilayered approach that contributes to precision in blocking political dissent, a report released Thursday finds.

                                The precision means that China's filters can block just specific references to Tibetan independence without blocking all references to Tibet. Likewise, the government is effective at limiting discussions about Falun Gong, the Dalai Lama, Tiananmen Square and other topics deemed sensitive, the study from the OpenNet Initiative finds.

                                Numerous government agencies and thousands of public and private employees are involved at all levels, from the main pipelines, or backbones, hauling data over long distances to the cybercafes where many citizens access the Internet.

                                That breadth, the study finds, allows the filtering tools to adapt to emerging forms of communications, such as Web journals, or blogs.

                                "China has been more successful than any other country in the world to manage to filter the Internet despite the fast changes in technology," said John Palfrey, one of the study's principal investigators and executive director of Harvard Law School's Berkman Center for Internet and Society.

                                Saudi Arabia, for example, largely controls the Internet by having all traffic flow through a central agency, where it can be monitored. Visitors trying to access a banned site get a message saying it has been blocked, Palfrey said.

                                "China is much more subtle than that," Palfrey said. "You don't know what you don't know. It's more effective than if you see it but know you can't access it."

                                With filters at multiple points, including some search engines, content is simply removed rather than replaced with a notice, he said.

                                Google Inc. (GOOG) has acknowledged its Chinese-language news service - introduced on a test basis last fall - leaves out results from government-banned sites, though the company says that is done so users won't end up clicking on links that lead nowhere because of the Chinese filters.

                                China, which has the world's second-largest population of Internet users behind the United States, promotes Internet use for business and education, while trying to curb access to political dissent, pornography and other topics the communist government deems sensitive. Many users do find ways around the controls - for instance, using "proxy" servers that mask a site's true origin.

                                It is through similar proxy servers and long-distance calls that researchers outside China managed to test what users inside China see. The researchers also employed volunteers inside the country to conduct more extensive testing.

                                The researchers deployed software and physical equipment called packet sniffers to monitor the flow of traffic and try to gauge where content gets dropped. Palfrey would not elaborate on techniques, other than to say many Internet systems have security flaws through which outsiders can sneak in software.

                                Funded by George Soros' Open Society Institute, the OpenNet Initiative is a collaboration of researchers at Harvard, the University of Cambridge and the University of Toronto working on issues of Internet censorship and surveillance.

                                Their testing determined that:

                                _Though some dissidents complain that e-mail newsletters sent in bulk are sometimes blocked, individual messages tend not to get filtered.

                                _Much of the filtering occurs at the backbone, but individual Internet service providers sometimes deploy additional blocking. Cybercafes and operators of discussion boards also control content proactively under threat of penalties.

                                _Filtering tends to be triggered by the appearance of certain keywords, rather than a visit to a specific domain name or numeric Internet address. The keyword-based filters also allow blogs to keep people from completing posts containing banned topics.

                                "You can filter much more precisely at a keyword level," Palfrey said. "China wants to be able to enable its citizens to use the Internet and grow its economy. Shutting down all blog servers doesn't seem like a great idea, but it doesn't want to let through all forms of political dissent."
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