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    A Perspective on Existence

    1-Are you real? Do you have thoughts, dreams, feelings, experiences?

    2-Who is best able to determine the meaning of your life?

    3-If you truly met the absolute God, supreme identity, or ultimate knowledge, who would you verify and validate your experience with?

    4-If you have or had supernatural experiences, do those who don`t or never experienced it believe you?

    5-How are you aware of thousands of details, like all the objects where you are sitting now in the same room, without being conscious of all of it?

    6-Is the universe made of the same substance as you? Is the universe fractal?

    7-If you ask yourself - Does my life have meaning? Who would be asking? And who would answer?

    8-Have you ever been anywhere that you were not there?

    9-If you lost 10 pounds of weight, would you be less of a person?

    10-Can you define yourself? Where do your thoughts come from? Who experiences joy and sadness?

    These are questions that most simply ignore, because they believe there is no answer to these questions. Yet you cherish your life, or you would not be here. So saying "I have no meaning" is avoidance and evasion.
    Comparing yourself to others is also evasion, like "I am just one of many more". Many more what?
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    You have made peace with the evil Wheredehekowi tribe-we demand you tell us if they are a tribe that is playing this scenario.
    We also agree not to crush you, if you teach us the tech of warp drive and mental telepathy and give 10 trinkets
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    Thanks for posting that jpeg. It's really changed my outlook on life.
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    • #3
      I have meaning. Mere existance does not. I give my existance meaning.
      Exult in your existence, because that very process has blundered unwittingly on its own negation. Only a small, local negation, to be sure: only one species, and only a minority of that species; but there lies hope. [...] Stand tall, Bipedal Ape. The shark may outswim you, the cheetah outrun you, the swift outfly you, the capuchin outclimb you, the elephant outpower you, the redwood outlast you. But you have the biggest gifts of all: the gift of understanding the ruthlessly cruel process that gave us all existence [and the] gift of revulsion against its implications.
      -Richard Dawkins

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      • #4
        1-Are you real? Do you have thoughts, dreams, feelings, experiences? Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes

        2-Who is best able to determine the meaning of your life? myself

        3-If you truly met the absolute God, supreme identity, or ultimate knowledge, who would you verify and validate your experience with? myself

        4-If you have or had supernatural experiences, do those who don`t or never experienced it believe you? N/A

        5-How are you aware of thousands of details, like all the objects where you are sitting now in the same room, without being conscious of all of it? My brain

        6-Is the universe made of the same substance as you? Is the universe fractal? yes, yes

        7-If you ask yourself - Does my life have meaning? Who would be asking? And who would answer? my life has no meaning, I would be asking, and I am answering

        8-Have you ever been anywhere that you were not there? no

        9-If you lost 10 pounds of weight, would you be less of a person? yes

        10-Can you define yourself? Where do your thoughts come from? Who experiences joy and sadness? I am a human, my thoughts come from my brain, my brain experiences joy and sadness

        easy questions. Next.

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        • #5
          I'd hit it.

          Therefore I am.
          We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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          • #6
            Re: A Perspective on Existence

            1-Are you real? Do you have thoughts, dreams, feelings, experiences?

            I am real, but you are not.

            2-Who is best able to determine the meaning of your life?

            I, me, myself.

            3-If you truly met the absolute God, supreme identity, or ultimate knowledge, who would you verify and validate your experience with?

            I would invite "God" to participate in a few experiments.

            4-If you have or had supernatural experiences, do those who don`t or never experienced it believe you?

            How do you define supernatural experiences?

            5-How are you aware of thousands of details, like all the objects where you are sitting now in the same room, without being conscious of all of it?

            I am not aware of anything outside my consciousness. If you are aware of something, it must be in your consciousness, or you are talking bollocks.

            6-Is the universe made of the same substance as you? Is the universe fractal?

            Same substance? Water? Protein? Hydrogen? Neutrons? Quarks and leptons?

            7-If you ask yourself - Does my life have meaning? Who would be asking? And who would answer?

            Um, clearly myself, judging from your question.

            8-Have you ever been anywhere that you were not there?

            Sure, all the time, in my dreams.

            9-If you lost 10 pounds of weight, would you be less of a person?

            If you gain 30 kilograms, would you be more of a person?

            10-Can you define yourself? Where do your thoughts come from? Who experiences joy and sadness?

            Yes. My brain. Me.
            (\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
            (='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
            (")_(") "Starting the fire from within."

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            • #7
              I AM NOT REAL I AM A FIGMENT OF YOUR IMAGINATION.
              ~ If Tehben spits eggs at you, jump on them and throw them back. ~ Eventis ~ Eventis Dungeons & Dragons 6th Age Campaign: Chapter 1, Chapter 2, Chapter 3, Chapter 4: (Unspeakable) Horror on the Hill ~

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              • #8
                Re: A Perspective on Existence

                1-Are you real? Do you have thoughts, dreams, feelings, experiences?

                Of course not.
                The being which believes its me just imagines it has them

                2-Who is best able to determine the meaning of your life?

                Those who will write the history books after my death.

                3-If you truly met the absolute God, supreme identity, or ultimate knowledge, who would you verify and validate your experience with?

                If god is almighty he will know how to dispel my doubts

                4-If you have or had supernatural experiences, do those who don`t or never experienced it believe you?

                I just don´t talk about them

                5-How are you aware of thousands of details, like all the objects where you are sitting now in the same room, without being conscious of all of it?

                UR answered this question already



                6-Is the universe made of the same substance as you? Is the universe fractal?


                It´s made of the same substance as my body.
                It´s fractal to a certain degree.


                7-If you ask yourself - Does my life have meaning? Who would be asking? And who would answer?

                The same people as in my answer to Question 2

                8-Have you ever been anywhere that you were not there?

                UR answered this question already

                9-If you lost 10 pounds of weight, would you be less of a person?

                There would just be some pound less fat and/or muscles within my body

                10-Can you define yourself? Where do your thoughts come from? Who experiences joy and sadness?

                My Brain? My soul? The entity which is dreaming to be me? Maybe a mix of them all and maybe dependend onto the POV
                Tamsin (Lost Girl): "I am the Harbinger of Death. I arrive on winds of blessed air. Air that you no longer deserve."
                Tamsin (Lost Girl): "He has fallen in battle and I must take him to the Einherjar in Valhalla"

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                • #9
                  Urban Ranger and Proteus_MST, interesting answers.
                  This was more of a serious troll than anything.

                  Proteus - we believe and experience very similar.
                  You have made peace with the evil Wheredehekowi tribe-we demand you tell us if they are a tribe that is playing this scenario.
                  We also agree not to crush you, if you teach us the tech of warp drive and mental telepathy and give 10 trinkets

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                  • #10
                    These are questions that most simply ignore, because they believe there is no answer to these questions.
                    Maybe. Or maybe it is a question many don't bother to ask because they have already found that it is a waste of time to bother looking for their answers.

                    Yet you cherish your life, or you would not be here.
                    Really? Life is not something to be cherished, at least IMO. It is something to be offered. I am not here because I love my life. I am here because I chose not to die.

                    (where's Sava?)

                    So saying "I have no meaning" is avoidance and evasion.
                    Or is it the truth?

                    Comparing yourself to others is also evasion, like "I am just one of many more". Many more what?
                    Don't worry, you are special just like the rest of us...

                    w00t!

                    SHould I answer this troll?
                    Monkey!!!

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                    • #11
                      SHould I answer this troll?
                      Not a troll to start a flamewar, but a troll to see what some here think and believe.
                      You have made peace with the evil Wheredehekowi tribe-we demand you tell us if they are a tribe that is playing this scenario.
                      We also agree not to crush you, if you teach us the tech of warp drive and mental telepathy and give 10 trinkets

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                      • #12
                        Are you sure it wasn't you giving that lecture I was dozing in today.........?

                        Too zonked to give decent answers tonight, but I shall try tomorrow.
                        Desperados of the world, unite. You have nothing to lose but your dignity.......
                        07849275180

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                        • #13
                          I see someone has just started expirementing with pot.
                          Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                          • #14
                            Or LSD.
                            I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                            - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                            • #15
                              Re: A Perspective on Existence

                              I think I agree pretty much with UR, but in the interests of thinking about it:

                              Originally posted by beingofone
                              1-Are you real? Do you have thoughts, dreams, feelings, experiences?
                              Yes, clearly. If I wasn't, I wouldn't exist. And yes to the other four.

                              Originally posted by beingofone
                              2-Who is best able to determine the meaning of your life?
                              If there was one, me.

                              Originally posted by beingofone
                              3-If you truly met the absolute God, supreme identity, or ultimate knowledge, who would you verify and validate your experience with?
                              I wouldn't. If there is a God and he wanted me to be aware of him, he'd make me aware. With over half the planet being believers of some sort or other, it wouldn't feel isolating so I wouldn't need to validate it to anyone but me. To validate it to me, well, if he's God, he'd be able to.

                              Originally posted by beingofone
                              4-If you have or had supernatural experiences, do those who don`t or never experienced it believe you?
                              N/a, but they shouldn't, really. Else it wouldn't be supernatural.

                              Originally posted by beingofone
                              5-How are you aware of thousands of details, like all the objects where you are sitting now in the same room, without being conscious of all of it?
                              Subconcious. However I'm not aware of them. I could find out if there's a pen behind me, but I'm not aware of it at the moment.

                              Originally posted by beingofone
                              6-Is the universe made of the same substance as you? Is the universe fractal?
                              Substance? As in matter? Yes. As in the actual elements? No. And yes, the universe probably is fractal, though it's not like we can tell, it's a little big for that.

                              Originally posted by beingofone
                              7-If you ask yourself - Does my life have meaning? Who would be asking? And who would answer?
                              If I mean in an absolute sense, I wouldn't. However if you mean superficially, I'd ask myself usually, though sometimes I'd ask a loved one or someone who gives it meaning.

                              Originally posted by beingofone
                              8-Have you ever been anywhere that you were not there?
                              No.

                              Originally posted by beingofone
                              9-If you lost 10 pounds of weight, would you be less of a person?
                              Physically, yes. Mentally, no.

                              Originally posted by beingofone
                              10-Can you define yourself? Where do your thoughts come from? Who experiences joy and sadness?
                              No, my brain, and me.
                              Smile
                              For though he was master of the world, he was not quite sure what to do next
                              But he would think of something
                              "Hm. I suppose I should get my waffle a santa hat." - Kuciwalker

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