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    Boy Scout official charged in child porn case

    Tuesday, March 29, 2005 Posted: 3:42 PM EST (2042 GMT)

    DALLAS, Texas (CNN) -- A former top official of the Boy Scouts of America faces federal Internet child pornography charges and is expected to plead guilty Wednesday, a spokeswoman for the U.S. attorney's office said.

    Douglas S. Smith Jr. faces a single count of receiving and distributing child pornography -- a charge resulting from a federal investigation conducted with German authorities.

    The U.S. attorney's office in Fort Worth, Texas, filed the charges after federal investigators found images of children engaging in sex acts on Smith's computer.

    Smith is scheduled to appear before a federal judge Wednesday in Fort Worth, said Kathy Colvin, a spokeswoman for the U.S. attorney's office.

    "We anticipate Mr. Smith will enter a guilty plea at that time," she said.

    Smith retired from the Boy Scouts in February after a 39-year career with the youth organization, based in suburban Dallas. The organization placed him on administrative leave after learning that he was under criminal investigation, and Smith stepped down soon afterward, BSA spokesman Greg Shields said.

    Smith, a former Eagle Scout, previously served as the Boy Scouts' director of programming, Shields said.

    "As a professional scouter, he was in more administrative positions -- most recently developing programs -- and not in direct contact with the youth," Shields said.

    Shields said the Boy Scouts are "shocked and dismayed" by Smith's arrest, but the group has cooperated with investigators in the case.

    "We surrendered his work computer to authorities," he said.

    Smith surrendered to authorities Friday and was released without bond, according to court records. There was no immediate comment from his attorney.
    Was it "moral" grounds they banned gays over?

    Christians.
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  • #2
    Maybe Smith is gay.....
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Wezil
      Maybe Smith is gay.....
      He's a pedophile.

      His sexuality isn't relevant.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Asher

        He's a pedophile.

        His sexuality isn't relevant.
        I wasn't the one implying it was.
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        • #5
          edit:NM the article doesn't state whether they are boys are girls.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Wezil
            I wasn't the one implying it was.
            The point was the boyscouts position on banning gays for moral reasons is a bit off-base, since they've got pedophiles in the upper leadership rings...
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Asher

              The point was the boyscouts position on banning gays for moral reasons is a bit off-base, since they've got pedophiles in the upper leadership rings...
              It sounds like you are the one equating being gay and being a peadophile.

              If the 2 aren't related, then this guy being a paedophile has no bearing whatsoever on the boy scouts stance on gays.

              The reason why they can't accept gays is because mothers would not feel comfortable sending their sons to camp with gays. The mothers are wrong of course. But the BSA has to cater to a homophobic america, or they will cease as an organization.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Asher

                The point was the boyscouts position on banning gays for moral reasons is a bit off-base, since they've got pedophiles in the upper leadership rings...
                I understand your point but your troll misses.

                The Boy Scouts would have pedophiles with or without gays.

                Gays can be pedophiles too.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Dissident
                  It sounds like you are the one equating being gay and being a peadophile.

                  If the 2 aren't related, then this guy being a paedophile has no bearing whatsoever on the boy scouts stance on gays.
                  The issue was banning gay leaders (he was dismissed for being a gay leader, not a gay member) because they thought it would lead to relationships with the young boys.

                  Clearly that is happening anyway, and is independent of sexuality.

                  I'm not equating being gay to being a pedophile, I'm pointing out their hypocrisy in taking a "moral highground" in banning gays while allowing a pedophile to be a high-ranked leader.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Wezil
                    I understand your point but your troll misses.

                    The Boy Scouts would have pedophiles with or without gays.

                    Gays can be pedophiles too.
                    That's the point.

                    It's an independent variable, and banning gays doesn't prevent anything

                    So it's a good thing they prevented gay leaders from being members to keep those damn pedophiles out.
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                    • #11
                      But if the reason that gays are banned is because, according to a strict Christian interpretation, they are immoral, and yet pedophiles, also immoral according to Christianity, are in the top ranks, then there is some serious hypocracy going down.
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                      • #12
                        I don't think it's so much the gays scout leaders will have sex with the boys. It's that parents fear that the gay scout leaders will indoctrinate them into the "gay lifestyle" we hear so much about. And their sons will "become" gay.

                        Of course what they don't realize is the boy scouts has always been gay. . I say this even though I was in the boy scouts for about a year before I grew bored of it.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Dissident
                          I don't think it's so much the gays scout leaders will have sex with the boys. It's that parents fear that the gay scout leaders will indoctrinate them into the "gay lifestyle" we hear so much about.
                          Either way, how much do you want to bet 99% of such parents are Christians not living they neighbour.
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                          • #14
                            I'm not seeing the hypocracy here. It's not like they knew the guy was a pedophile but put him in a high-ranking position anyway, or that they disallow gays but accept pedophiles.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Kontiki
                              I'm not seeing the hypocracy here. It's not like they knew the guy was a pedophile but put him in a high-ranking position anyway, or that they disallow gays but accept pedophiles.
                              Don't you have to be a pedophile to be involved with Boy Scouts your entire life, without a kid in it?
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