Interesting battle in Iraq

[TCO]

http://www.blackfive.net/main/2005/03/after_action_re.html

Over the next few days you will see on the television news shows, and in the print news media the story of a Military Police Squad who are heroes. Through those outlets, I doubt that their story will get out in a truly descriptive manner. I can't express to you the pride, awe, and respect I feel for the soldiers of call sign Raven 42.

On Sunday afternoon, in a very bad section of scrub-land called Salman Pak, on the southeastern outskirts of Baghdad, 40 to 50 heavily-armed Iraqi insurgents attacked a convoy of 30 civilian tractor trailer trucks that were moving supplies for the coalition forces, along an Alternate Supply Route. These tractor trailers, driven by third country nationals (primarily Turkish), were escorted by 3 armored Hummers from the COSCOM*...

Anybody post on this yet?

Like to get Chris and Mike and Oerdin's insights on the tactics and performance.

Has this been on the news or papers?

[Ted Striker]

America's Finest

[Ted Striker]

I don't know if Chris still posts here.

Maybe he will now that you and Mister MTG are back.

Still, whooping insurgent azz.

[BlackCat]

Peeked a little around at that site, and really, I wouldn't belive them if they claimed that the world are round unless confirmed by others.

[TCO]

yeah, has anyone seen this on the news?

[Dinner]

They did a good job but that's pretty routine. The Arabs love to attack civilians because civilians don't have guns while the military shoots back.

[Ted Striker]

Originally posted by BlackCat
Peeked a little around at that site, and really, I wouldn't belive them if they claimed that the world are round unless confirmed by others.

There is a link to a video the incident on the site.

Camera work is really bad.

You see the convoy get stopped.

Then you see the Humvees show up. Then the camera goes to black.

[Ted Striker]

I think the big deal that the article was making was that most of the leaders in this were women.

[Seeker]

Loved the WorldNetDaily link on that site...

Off-Topic, but has anyone read about Tony Blair's recent awarding of a VC to a British soldier in Iraq?

The Victoria Cross is the most prestigious award for valour. One of its many (formerly) stringent requirements is that the winner must knowingly face a situation of almost certain death.

The VC awardee in Iraq certainly risked his life and showed great courage, but at the near-superhuman level that was expected of VC winners in the 19th and early 20th centuries? He should have recieved a lesser medal IMHO.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Seeker
Loved the WorldNetDaily link on that site...

[Frozzy]

The Victoria Cross is the most prestigious award for valour. One of its many (formerly) stringent requirements is that the winner must knowingly face a situation of almost certain death.

The VC awardee in Iraq certainly risked his life and showed great courage, but at the near-superhuman level that was expected of VC winners in the 19th and early 20th centuries? He should have recieved a lesser medal IMHO.

Here's the incident in question:

In the first incident in May 2004, Pte Beharry was driving the Platoon Commander’s Warrior armoured vehicle that had been called to the assistance of a foot patrol caught in a series of ambushes. The Warrior was hit by multiple rocket propelled grenades, causing damage and resulting in the loss of radio communications. The platoon commander, the vehicle’s gunner and a number of other soldiers in the vehicle were injured. Pte Beharry showed initiative and great courage driving through the ambush, taking his crew, and leading five other Warriors to safety. He then demonstrated outstanding bravery by extracting his wounded colleagues from the vehicle, all the time exposed to further enemy fire.

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Hm. Driving through many RPGs, no ability to communicate, drviing through more ammunition as a dead duck essentially (his gunner was injured), stopping, removing said soliders from the vehicle, again in the line of fire, to safety.

I'd like to see you try to run through that crossfire for that length of time without saying "Yep, there's a strong chance I will die".

[notyoueither]

I read about that guy. He well deserves the VC.

[C0ckney]

Originally posted by Seeker
Loved the WorldNetDaily link on that site...

Off-Topic, but has anyone read about Tony Blair's recent awarding of a VC to a British soldier in Iraq?

The Victoria Cross is the most prestigious award for valour. One of its many (formerly) stringent requirements is that the winner must knowingly face a situation of almost certain death.

The VC awardee in Iraq certainly risked his life and showed great courage, but at the near-superhuman level that was expected of VC winners in the 19th and early 20th centuries? He should have recieved a lesser medal IMHO.

err you what?

VCs were given out a lot more in the 19th century. the fact this is the first awarded since 1982 should tell you something.

your opinion, however humble, is very wrong.

[Agathon]

Yeah VCs should be given for illegal wars. Nice way to reward war crimes.

[Ned]

Women in combat. Wow.