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    'Mein Kampf' a Best Seller in Turkey

    By JAMES C. HELICKE, Associated Press Writer

    ISTANBUL, Turkey - Turkish bookshops have a best seller, but some of them are hesitant about giving it too much display.

    It's "Mein Kampf."


    The popularity of Adolf Hitler's book, filled with anti-Jewish diatribes and dreams of world domination, is puzzling some Turks. Does it reflect rising anti-Semitic or anti-Western sentiment in Muslim Turkey? Or anger over Israel's treatment of the Palestinians and the war in Iraq (news - web sites)? Is it a backlash against the country's moves to join the European Union (news - web sites)? Or does it simply offer a cheap thrill?


    At least two new Turkish-language versions are out in paperback and selling for as little as $4.50, but they could run into legal trouble. They were printed without the permission of the Finance Ministry of the German state of Bavaria, which was given control of Hitler's estate after World War II and is keen to suppress the book.


    German diplomats in Turkey have been told to explore court action. "The book 'Mein Kampf' should not be reprinted," says Bavarian Finance Minister Kurt Faltlhauser. "The state of Bavaria administers the copyright very restrictively to prevent an increase of Nazi ideas."


    Last month the ministry said it was seeking legal action to stop the book's publication in Poland.


    "Mein Kampf" — meaning "My Struggle," was written in the 1920s and has long been widely available in Arab countries, but no increase in sales has been noted there lately. So Turkish analysts are hard put to explain why tens of thousands of copies have been sold here in recent months.


    Lina Filiba, executive vice president of Turkey's 25,000-member Jewish community, called it "disturbing."


    She said price and media attention were major factors, but also pointed to a "worrying trend" of anti-Semitic publications such as "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" being sold even in bustling department stores.


    "Metal Storm" by Orkun Ucar and Burak Turna, a novel imagining a war between Turkey and the United States, is Turkey's top seller. Conspiracy theory books sell well and the press is extremely critical of the United States and Israel.


    Filiba tied the phenomenon to the European Union's Dec. 17 decision to open membership talks with Turkey, a move long sought by Turkish governments but unpopular among those who fear it will expose their country to permissive European influences.


    "I think there's an increase in anti-Semitic, anti-American, and anti-foreigner feeling that has paralleled Dec. 17," Filiba said.


    Umit Ozdag, writing in the daily Aksam, worried that Turks feel ill-treated by the West and are anxious as ethnic Kurds in Turkey and neighboring Iraq are increasingly assertive. Some Turks, he wrote, are finding comfort in Hitler's claims that Germany lost the first world war because of the Jews.


    "Turks think they are being exploited. They are angry with the demands of the European Union and United States. But those who anger them the most are Kurdish nationalists," he wrote. "Turks who think they're are being stabbed in the back read Hitler. That is a ... very dangerous development."


    At least two publishing houses, Emre and Manifesto, have released cheap versions of "Mein Kampf."


    Oguz Tektas of Manifesto said it had sold at least 25,000 of its print run of 30,000.


    "It has nothing to do with anti-Semitism. Our only aim was commercial," Tektas said.





    Esin Aka of the D and R bookshop chain said Thursday that the Emre book, released five weeks ago, was No. 2 this week, after "Metal Storm." Senol Bilginan of the Bilgi store in Ankara said it was No. 3.

    "The price is of course low. And the fact that it has been ordered confiscated in some countries also helped," he said. "Everyone is buying it ... Young people have an intense interest."

    Still, it's not always easy to find. One D and R shop in Istanbul buried it on a low shelf. The Dost bookshop in Ankara put it on a high shelf, where the cover featuring a saluting Hitler couldn't be seen. The manager said he was selling about five books a day and added he deliberately didn't put it on the best-seller shelves.

    "I saw the book on TV and got curious about Hitler's life and decided to buy it," said Asli Ugur, 20, a university student.

    She also bought a book about Che Guevara.
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    "I saw the book on TV and got curious about Hitler's life and decided to buy it," said Asli Ugur, 20, a university student.

    She also bought a book about Che Guevara.
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    • #3
      Oooh, a book on Che Guevara... rather dull I suspect, 'cept for the parts with Thaben in it.

      Poor Thorn, he killed his own thread by putting "nazi" in the title. It was doomed to begin with.
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      • #4
        Didn't Hitler say some good things about Attaturk? (probably liked all the senseless mass killing and ethnic purification in vogue in that part of the world)

        Did Hitler even write Mein Kampf? I heard a rumour that it was ghostwritten, or that he just dictated 'the gist' of it because he couldn't be arsed.
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        • #5
          IIRC it was dictated to and written up by Rudolf Hess.
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          • #6
            The book 'Mein Kampf' should not be reprinted


            What?! Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
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            • #7
              I thought Turkey was among the most secular of predominantly Muslim countries, hence its possible inclusion in the EU. If so, Thorn's analysis doesn't really make sense.

              I also understand that Hitler was not terribly fond of them swarthy ay-rabs either, there just weren't enough of them in Germany to blame so he chose Jews, followed by Communists, Freemasons, Romany, etc., as the cause of all the world's problems. So it's not like this is a logical fondness in any case.

              Note also that "The Passion" was surprisingly popular in the Islamic world because it could be interpreted as antisemitic. Ergo Muslims are Pre-Vatican II Catholic Traditionalists?
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Elok
                I also understand that Hitler was not terribly fond of them swarthy ay-rabs either, ?
                Turks aren't Arabs. AFAIR, Hitler didn't like the Arabs because they were also Semetic. However, I have no clue how he felt towards Turks.

                If I were to make a guess, I'd say that Nazi ideology didn't exactly love Turks, but probably held them at a higher level of regard than Slavs, maybe they thought of them like they thought of Italians. The Nazis didn't simply hate anyone who wasn't Germanic, they had a racial heirarchy. For example, while Aryans were at the top, the Japanese weren't untermenschen. They simply weren't as great as the Germans. Plus, the Turks were Germany's ally in WW1.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Elok
                  I thought Turkey was among the most secular of predominantly Muslim countries, hence its possible inclusion in the EU. If so, Thorn's analysis doesn't really make sense.

                  I also understand that Hitler was not terribly fond of them swarthy ay-rabs either, there just weren't enough of them in Germany to blame so he chose Jews, followed by Communists, Freemasons, Romany, etc., as the cause of all the world's problems. So it's not like this is a logical fondness in any case.

                  Note also that "The Passion" was surprisingly popular in the Islamic world because it could be interpreted as antisemitic. Ergo Muslims are Pre-Vatican II Catholic Traditionalists?

                  Thus, Mel Gibson supports Jihad!

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                  • #10
                    Oh yeah, Turks are related to Scythians, aren't they...well, why would they be above the slavs in Hitler's estimation? I suppose they might be on the same level as the Japanese, being from the same general racial group, but they originated as a people very similar to the Mongols in most respects, you'd think Mr. Fastidious would despise them too, wouldn't you? Or would he exempt them just because of their usefulness in WWI?
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Japher
                      Oooh, a book on Che Guevara... rather dull I suspect, 'cept for the parts with Thaben in it.
                      Hey! The only reason that kid ever had any fun is cuza me!
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                      • #12
                        Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.


                        If you want history read non-fiction.

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                        • #13
                          What about "Uncle Tom's Cabin"?

                          Primary sources are important and much better than secondary ones (provided you can read and understand the primary sources) .
                          “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                            What about "Uncle Tom's Cabin"?
                            An often overlooked classic. Not at all like I imagined it would be. The clash of wills between Uncle Tom & Simon Legree at the climax of the book is one of the best in all literature.

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                            • #15
                              Oguz Tektas of Manifesto said it had sold at least 25,000 of its print run of 30,000.
                              In a country of 70 million people, that's nothing.

                              Oh, what a surprise, it's Associated Press, esteemed source of much of the 'tidal wave of European anti-semitism' bollocks.

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