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Hmm, what's eating you this time, Thorn? Just get harassed by a Catholic or something? Aside from the stuff about defending the Crusades (which got out of hand rather quickly, whatever their original intent), I second Heresson. This is just tacky.
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5 out of 6 historians, that's whom.Originally posted by Heresson
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Christians had not held the Holy Land since the 7th century. The Byzantine Emperor asked for help against those nasty Turks, not for a Papal expedition to Jerusalem, which was held at the time by Muslim powers friendly to the Byzantine Emperor.
The Crusaders did great damage and can be thanked to a great extent for the great decline of Christianity in Syria, Turkey, and the Holy Land.
And lets not forget the bastards of the 4th Crusade that made it only far enough to sack Constantinople. Yeah, real defensive there.If you don't like reality, change it! me
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bull****... the Crusaders sacked Orthodox churches...Originally posted by Heresson
Any time someone wants to hit Christianity, He recalls crusades. Crusades are not part of Christian religion, moreover they stopped hungred years ago and the goal was not to kill people, but to "help Eastern Christians in need" (which they did poorly, to say the least) and to liberate Holy Land.To us, it is the BEAST.
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Dagnabit, Heresson, this thread could have been a perfectly innocuous let's-laugh-at-Thorn opportunity, but nooo, you had to defend the crusades. It's not a good idea to attack strawmen like that.
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If I recall correctly, EVC, didn't you once advocate the mass murder of homosexuals by means of hanging them by their genitals?Originally posted by Thorn
So apparently killing gays is picking the flowers eh?"I'm moving to the Left" - Lancer
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"dead body of their god and drink his blood (bread and wine)...?"
The body is not dead. By consuming the Eucharist we enter into communion with our God.
"What kind of religion has as their official icon, their diety nailed to a wooden board, with thorns bleeding his head"
It does give us a distinction with other religions, whose leaders were popular and powerful. Mohammed was a political leader who conqured vast swaths of land. In many Pagan religions, being strong, powerful, and rich was honored. In Christianity we honor one who loved us so much he was willing to go to his death for our sake."I'm moving to the Left" - Lancer
"I imagine the neighbors on your right are estatic." - Slowwhand
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