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  • #16
    That would only be true if you believed the government was justified in its initial action.

    If you believe that the students are protesting unjust or undesirable cuts then the strike is likely to crystalise your opposition to the government's actions.
    12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
    Stadtluft Macht Frei
    Killing it is the new killing it
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    • #17
      Originally posted by KrazyHorse
      That would only be true if you believed the government was justified in its initial action.

      If you believe that the students are protesting unjust or undesirable cuts then the strike is likely to crystalise your opposition to the government's actions.
      Well I believe people should pay, not get things on a silver platter. That's why I think the fees in California for universities should be hiked. Yes it will be more of a pain for me and other students.. but if we don't we can't pay for our services, these services disappear. That simple.

      The students should accept the fact they can't always get what they want.

      PAY FOR WHAT YOU GET. You can't steal.
      For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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      • #18
        That would only be true if you believed the government was justified in its initial action.
        It just makes the government look weak. I might be angry at the government on principle. Now everyone is going to think the government is a pushover for a little extra dough. These students probably now think they have the government over a barrel.

        Don't give an inch, or they'll take a mile.
        I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Giancarlo
          They should get ZERO and actually pay for services. Like what I do. Actually paying for it.
          a) You pay for ****, sweetheart. Mommy and daddy pay for you

          b) California has a public university system (actually, 2 of them), which tells me that residents of california who go to school there most definitely do not pay full price for what they're getting
          12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
          Stadtluft Macht Frei
          Killing it is the new killing it
          Ultima Ratio Regum

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          • #20
            Originally posted by DanS


            It just makes the government look weak. I might be angry at the government on principle. Now everyone is going to think the government is a pushover for a little extra dough. These students probably now think they have the government over a barrel.
            Not really. Student strikes are notoriously hard to hold together because students are understandably averse to losing an entire semester. This is the first large-scale student strike in 35 years in Quebec (according to the radio today).
            12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
            Stadtluft Macht Frei
            Killing it is the new killing it
            Ultima Ratio Regum

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            • #21
              Originally posted by KrazyHorse


              a) You pay for ****, sweetheart. Mommy and daddy pay for you
              No. I have a job paying off the loan I got to pay for the services. I also have some grants from non-government organizations. So no, think again.

              b) California has a public university system (actually, 2 of them), which tells me that residents of california who go to school there most definitely do not pay full price for what they're getting
              Actually, both the UC and CSU systems are pretty damn good.
              For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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              • #22
                Originally posted by KrazyHorse


                Not really. Student strikes are notoriously hard to hold together because students are understandably averse to losing an entire semester. This is the first large-scale student strike in 35 years in Quebec (according to the radio today).
                Yeah its biggest since '68.
                Hes right that student strikes are usually easy for the gov. to handle, as many ppl pointed out, the students are only hurting themselves directly and they are afraid of losing session.
                In general they have to convince the general population that they are fighting for what is right, and in this case they are winning...

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by DinoDoc
                  It'd be amusing if professors decided to enforce attendence policies and fail people who missed to much because they decided to slack off during this "student strike."
                  DinoDoc, students have no problem vandalizing cars and offices. The professors know this. A strike is a two-way game.
                  In Soviet Russia, Fake borises YOU.

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                  • #24
                    Then it'd be great if those professors pressed charges against the hooligans that vandalized cars and offices .
                    “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                    - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                    • #25
                      I agree that a student strike is not like a "true" strike, but there are some benefits.

                      1) University principals don't like the trouble associated with it, and side with the students against the government.

                      2) It gets the message on the street, and in cases where the population mostly agrees, this is effective to reduce the popularity of a government.

                      3) Cancelling a semester is a pain in the ass for everyone, not only the students.

                      4) We're having so much fun, drinking, smoking, shouting!
                      In Soviet Russia, Fake borises YOU.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                        Then it'd be great if those professors pressed charges against the hooligans that vandalized cars and offices .
                        As if the police has the means to investigate on every broken window. Strike violence rarely gets punished.
                        In Soviet Russia, Fake borises YOU.

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                        • #27
                          Ah yes, a culture of lawlessness, only promoted by students. And you wonder why people hate stiking hooligans.

                          In the US, the police will investigate the vandalism. At the very least, the university police will and those responsible will get booted off campus.

                          I wonder how that isn't intimidation of professors? Nice to know that your ilk are on the same moral plane as the mafia.
                          “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                          - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by JohnT
                            The State refuses to pay for students to study, and in response, the students stop studying.

                            Sounds like a win-win from the States' perspective.
                            When the state sees it's citizens as an enemy or oponent, yes. But if the state sees the citizens as being a part of the state, then it's lose-lose.
                            Rethink Refuse Reduce Reuse

                            Do It Ourselves

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by JohnT
                              The State refuses to pay for students to study, and in response, the students stop studying.

                              Sounds like a win-win from the States' perspective. How is the strike their problem?

                              Have y'all ever thought that to protest a funding cut it might make more sense to increase consumption of academic resources? Make those people work!
                              That was my thought also. It's like a retiree going on strike because of SS cuts

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Oncle Boris
                                DinoDoc, students have no problem vandalizing cars and offices. The professors know this. A strike is a two-way game.
                                So, in response to the professors enforcing a perfectly legal policy, the students would commit crimes?

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